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Williams 58 Short Stop Restoration Project - Complete

By SteveinTexas

6 years ago


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    #1 6 years ago

    My recent buy from an eBay seller a month or so a 58, Williams Deluxe Short Stop Baseball Game, 2 player. Picked it up last week from Maxwell, Nebraska and brought it to Sugar Land Texas. Three day one way road trip. Maxwell is not near any major airport so was an additional 300 mile drive from Denver. The game has been with the seller since 1976 but probably has not operated since the nineties. Randy the seller said the back box door was never part of the game since he owned it. How usual is that.

    Game safely in my workshop.
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    Back Glass and running men
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    The cabinet paint is still mostly intact. It is very dirty but overall in very good condition. All parts are present but everything is gummed up. Original back glass paint is holding on barely but flaking in critical spots and needs a Mylar backing to save it ASAP. This is an excellent restoration candidate will restore very well.

    Original Batting Unit and Pitching Unit that’s unusual.
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    Internals are all in place
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    The game’s history seems to be that there were two owners the operator and then Randy the seller. Randy, got the game as a graduation gift in 76 from his parents. He is originally from LA and he remembers being told the game came out of the Pike Amusement area in Long Beach. His parents dealt in antiques.

    From reading Wikipedia the Pike amusement zone seems like an interesting area that was very popular with the public before Disney and Universal Studios siphoned away interest. As it is part of the game’s history I dug into the Pike Amusement area as a back drop to the game.

    Pike Amusement Zone
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    After World War II it was renamed Nu-Pike via a contest winner's submission in the late 1950s, then renamed Queen's Park in the late 1960s in homage to the arrival of the Queen Mary ocean liner in Long Beach.

    1979 was the year Long Beach city council refused to renew the land leases and demolished all of the structures and attractions it could that weren't trucked away. The 58 Short Stop game was probably already not a premier attraction by 1976 and now having no further long term future was sold off.

    Further descriptions of the area include entering the park at the "Walk of a Thousand Lights". You could very well have walked through an arcade archway entrance to the Ocean Center Building that contained the Hollywood on the Pike cabaret and an amusement arcade.

    Ocean Center Building Today.
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    One could then stroll west along the midway past storefront games, such as ball-pitch and shooting galleries, as well as outdoor amusement machines like the ever popular fortune predicting weight-scales, and several large indoor collections of coin-operated Electro-mechanical amusements - pinball, skill-prize merchandisers, penny-pitch, nickelodeon viewers, love and strength testers, fortune tellers, the House of Mirrors and more. Among the most popular coin-operated amusement machines and devices were the redemption games which dispensed tickets, such as skee-ball.

    People enjoying the amusements 1950’s.
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    People enjoying the amusements 1960’s.
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    Miss Universe Contestants.
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    One of the best-known historic coasters, the Cyclone Racer was built in 1930 to replace the Jack Rabbit Racer. The Cyclone Racer was a dual-track (two trains could launch side-by-side at the same time), It was a racing wooden roller coaster and the brain child of Fred Church.

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    To increase the thrill, the new coaster was built on pilings over the ocean, several hundred feet beyond the shore. Eventually the entire pier stood over sandy beach, not water, because of sand deposition due to the slowing of water caused by the new harbor expansion and breakwater. Over 30 million riders rode on the Cyclone before it closed in 1968.

    It was removed to clear space for a Shoreline Drive road cloverleaf to the Magnolia Bridge in anticipation of the RMS Queen Mary's imminent arrival. This was found later to be not required proving the Cyclone Racer was removed unnecessarily. The Cyclone Racer was the last remaining seaside dual-track roller coaster of its kind in the United States until it was disassembled and cataloged in September 1968 with the promise to Long Beach citizens that it would be rebuilt elsewhere. Which it hasn’t.

    Amusement Area looking back at the Ocean Center Entrance late 70’s.
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    Arcade Entrance to the Arcade area late 70’s
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    Queen Mary at its final Berth.
    It now needs serious refurbishment or taken offshore and scuttled.
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    So what started this muse, Randy the guy that I bought the 58 Short stop restoration project said I should look up the history of Pike Amusement area. I found it very interesting and thought you might too.

    2 weeks later
    #2 6 years ago

    1958 Short Stop Flyer
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    I was finally able to get some time to look at my recent game addition. I needed to see exactly what I had bought and see what it would cost to bring back to mint so I need to strip down the game and examine everything. I wanted a 2 player baseball game as I currently have one player games so it may add more interest when playing.

    But first …I was side tracked with some Radio Shack drawers and how best to use them. I went with a minimalist build out idea.
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    I made a base with wheels (I put all my stuff on wheels) and added a bamboo top and located into a workshop corner.
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    Surprising how much pinball stuff we can amass and equally surprising how much I was able to store away in the readily accessible drawers for restoring future projects. It’s all looking a lot neater now and I got rid of all sorts of storage bins and shoe boxes. It didn't make me any more space for future games so I now need to think about letting some games go...groan.

    The condition of the game is typical for being ignored for 20 years; steppers are frozen and game is extremely dirty.

    The first thing I noticed when taking the play field out was these green balls.
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    They went straight to a plastic bag and then the trash. Don’t think these were mothballs maybe something worse like a rat poison?

    Only part MIA was the 3” bell coil and the assembly part it locates to.
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    The games back door or doors were missing as usual. So have to remake them …as usual.

    The next thing that caught my eye was the saddest thing, the backglass. It suffered this last two winters being in an unheated shed open to the elements. I will need to replace. Whether a Mylar overlay could be applied is remote possibly I fear.
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    Close up Damage
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    One more sad pic
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    Moving on, the cabinet paint is not that bad for its age except it is now chalking being in the barn so it may also need to be repainted. Try not to if at all possible.

    The light box does not need painting if the lower cabinet is acceptable.
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    The Lower cabinet is marginal as when you touch the paint it is flaking in some parts. So cleaning further is not going to be easy if at all possible.
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    This close up tells the story. The grime is not coming off without the paint coming off with it.
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    The front door is in good condition and I expect a perfect restore on it. Any idea what the leg colors were? I received the correct legs I think so they may have been black originally.
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    The front moulding is OK, showing its age and has wear to the bat slot that needs repairing. Will review later whether to make a vinyl overlay and clear, certainly an option.
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    The bat assembly is interesting.
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    It has a spring that tensions the lever, not the usual later simple spring that pivots off a post that is shown in the Williams’s part books and picture below.
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    This original spring I have seen before on a couple of later games and I have replaced by adding a spring post and have fashioned a stronger spring. However, on this game the original spring is working well and I will stay with it in the restore. I guess after this game rolled out the lever assembly was upgraded by Williams with the different spring arrangement, I believe this as shown is the original assembly for this particular game.

    I need to review the electro mechanical parts next and see if there is a smoking gun pointing to an operational problem that stopped this game being played.

    #3 6 years ago

    I sometimes wonder when I get non-working games why they stopped and were never fixed. A possible clue or not of when it stopped being played was the coin mech’s had trapped a bunch of coins, $1.80 in total. Their dates were between 1966 and 2000.

    The op told me he received the game in 76 and stopped playing it in the middle 90’s. The 2000 coin could have been dropped in as an optimistic attempt to make it work.

    On investigation a couple of odd signs may point to the culprit. The out unit stepper step up coil is looking toasty and this if not working would have made the game less fun.
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    However, it still would have reset so the game may have worked but never finished.

    Looking at the underside of the playfield the bat relay was quite toasty. Ah ha! This may be it.
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    This would have stopped the game operating in its tracks. I need to check the above coils with my meter this weekend and see which the killer is.

    At the bottom of the game was a broken off switch leaf roller so maybe when I strip the running man and score motor down it could be a clue. We will see.

    The running man assemble was reviewed next. The relay switches shown in the picture below are in a bank as shown on all running man games. These relays are easily accessible from the back of the game and are critical to controlling the operation of this marvelous feature. On review as usual the some of the switches were somewhat bent and would have stopped the running man operating.
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    A Baseball arcade game golden rule reminder; Probing with ‘fat fingers’ rarely fixes problems, especially in the running man area. This fat finger probing is a constant issue in all the baseball games I have restored. However, not the cause of the game stopping I think, just a result.

    Also the underside of the running man playfield had burn marks emanating from a man release coil incident.

    On view this maybe a older incident as the black return wire to the coil was replaced with some brown plastic colored wire to replace a couple of inches of burned wire. As this was a repair of sorts this was not the reason it stopped being played. I still need to put a meter on this coil.

    Looking at other possible game operation killers the various motors are still to be tested but look ok so I think the coils above will provide the killer answer.
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    Moving my thoughts to motors the pitch mechanics and motor seems in good condition. However, the motor is a sealed closed model and I am leery to leave unchecked. When I get to the playfield I will drill out the gearbox rivets and check what the grease is like inside. I recommend that all closed motor gearboxes that have not been turned for a bunch of years are opened, cleaned and the plastic cogs re-greased with some Magnalube.
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    Does the meters tell us anything about the game? Condition wise I don’t believe this game has had a long hard life. The reason is the contacts are not worn like the 60’s games I have restored to date. It seems to be the original parts and the labels are all in good condition.

    1 month later
    #4 6 years ago

    Been busy lately travelling for work and not getting to be home working on this project.

    I finally got back to the game and checked the suspect relays with my multi meter. I snipped one relay wire and checked all suspect coils and relays. Found that all the coils and relays were OK so no smoking gun why this game fell out of favor. I guess as the previous owner told me the game was forgotten as life activities take over. Eventually the steppers gummed up as it was never played and shopped.

    So time to get this thing properly reviewed and make my plan to restore this puppy.

    On further examination of the cabinet I checked the serial numbers and …ah heck it’s different to the light box number. Bloody op probably switched the head to sell it or keep the game making money, did he not know in the future people would start collecting and obsessing over them!.

    Cabinet stamp serial # WM 31337
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    Light Box Serial # 30984
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    Another bother for me was the cabinet paint condition. I still need to make a decision of the level of restore. Although the paint was in place overall it was flaking away from the wood and beyond saving in many places.
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    Further review of the bottom of the cabinet damage indicates the game was damaged when slid around without its legs. So need to re-glue overnight to start this repair.
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    The underside edges are almost all de-laminated after 50 + years but with wood glue and some clamps this is an easy repair.
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    I re-glued the edges to stop further damage and none of the damage is ever beyond repair so really no real issue for a game this old.

    Another problem was the glass would not slide out over the front cabinet wooden edge. Somehow the wood had become raised over 1/8”. Unless this game’s glass was meant to be removed sideways after taking of a side rail this makes zero sense.
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    I had to take the side rail off initially to get the glass out. On closer review there are nails in the sides indicating the front was once separated from the cabinet. I removed the nails and the front piece and tried to realign correctly but no dice. Why? The wood front is slightly too large and does not fit. The fix appears to be to cut the bottom board slot 1/8” wider so it drops slightly and then to open the leg holes slightly. Unless someone can correct me this is what I will do.

    The review of the back glass is next. It does not look good, it’s separated from the glass and very fragile in many places. It will not survive removal from the game intact. So I need to plan the removal and how to protect it as best as I can.

    In the center of the glass the paint has all lifted and started to break.
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    All the corners and edges of the paint have separated from the glass.
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    So fragile.
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    Following a search here on Pinside, RGB archives and Mr. Pinball Repairs ‘Tips of the Day’ http://user.xmission.com/~daina/tips/pub/tip_archive.html archives I see that using a pieces of 10 Mil thick Mylar is recommended for saving basket case back glasses. The Mylar should be adhesive backed. I was able to find the Mylar in an art store and sprayed the back with some adhesive so just as good, I think.

    I cut the Mylar an inch bigger than the actual glass, sprayed on the contact adhesive and put a side. I gently slide out the glass but could not save all the paint however considering how bad it was I was amazed I saved 95%. With help I laid the glass on to the Mylar it and smoothed out and this saved the paint that was left. One thing that was irritating was when the Mylar got within 3“ of the glass, static lifts more paint flakes and stuck them in the wrong place.

    Glass now protected with a Mylar backing. Hoo…Hoo!
    Overall considering what I had to work with the Mylar repair was a life saver. On further review the glass colors are so vivid and this is definitely a Bgresto restore candidate.
    Front View
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    Back View
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    Next review was the cabinet and decision time on to leave as is or a repaint.

    The bottom cabinet is in really bad shape. The paint is lifting off the wood. If this game had of been stored in a dry location without being exposed to the Nebraska elements over the last two years it would have been a perfect game to leave as is, but alas not, so sad.
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    The paint is flaking off the base wood in layers
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    More flaking and paint layer separation.
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    So I will need to make stencils and repaint the cabinet bottom at least.

    It’s no secret that as time went on the manufacturers spent less time and cost on paint. This game has four colors and the hairy webbing is a blue and white combination. Later games in the 60’s went to three colors and one color webbing or splatter. The older the game the better the original manufacturer painting of the cabs is found. There are so many fine examples of 50’s Woodrails with superb painting schemes and paint condition around it is obvious as the number of games sold increased shortcuts from previous years were made.

    I guess it’s still the same today if you listen to people on other sub forums that as the number of games made increases again the quality appears to be falling. The price of the game seems not to be a factor.

    Nico Volta in his epic US thread “Nic's North American Pinball Tour” epilogue part 1 of 2 made an interesting observation that I totally agree with.

    “In my opinion, every EM needs to be rebuilt top-to-bottom, down to the last screw, in order to be “gold standard certified”. We have reached the point in time where every EM is at least four decades old. This is much longer than they were ever intended to run and the issues we encounter today are often much worse than what pinball techs had to deal with many years ago! The time has come to reset the odometer and save them for another generation”.

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    I do not know exactly how I will achieve this hairy webbing but I saw a thread from Leckmeck mentioning success with Dupli-color auto lacquer paints so will research this further.

    The last item to review is the Front moulding. This is a wooden control panel that has a laminated surface over unique art and has a handle and buttons to control the pitch and bat. Over fifty years they take some abuse.
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    However I have developed an effective way of refinishing them using a vinyl overlay and then clearing with a thick coat of auto clear.
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    Here is the art I will use for the overlay

    #6 6 years ago
    Quoted from DennisDodel:

    Looking forward to another Bat Game adventure Steve. Looks like a good restoration candidate.

    Absolutely is Dennis. Another ground up restoration. Hard to better the Major League but there is different components and challenges so worth documenting.

    2 months later
    #7 6 years ago

    Hurricane Harvey interrupted my restoration as I was starting the cabinet restoration phase. I was not able as you can imagine to work outside in that downpour. Even though where I live is protected by a levee and pumps the 35” of rain we received at my location over the week nearly over whelmed the system. The levee is in place to protect us from the Brazos River that as you would expect crested at a record high. Not all my friends were so lucky.

    So once the house was put back in order I was able to get back at the cabinet work.

    The paint was easily removed with my new Rigid sander, however, with this sander you have got to be careful or you could remove wood along with the paint very quickly. Largest HP and RPM I could find. a Rigid Sander (resized).jpga Rigid Sander (resized).jpg I finished the sanding with my palm sander and this all takes a long weekend to prepare.

    What I noticed on this game is that the aged cabinet wood quality is never the same quality on every game. This time the wood edges seem to be very weak and splinters off more than usual. Possibly as this was originally a west coast located game in a drier environment not an east coast located game that I usually find to restore. No science in that thought just musing.
    b Cabinet repair (resized).JPGb Cabinet repair (resized).JPG Always surprised how much filler I use considering all that remains when finished. We must eventually sand 99% of it away during a restore.

    The game had plenty of damage and nicks plus the front panel needed re-fixing with glue and screws. I used the half and half filler and it all eventually feathered out well and it turned out fine.

    The head in pic above had a bunch of damage on the back where it must have been dragged about. But a bunch of glue and clamps to fix the delamination issues, followed by much more filler and it’s ready for paint.

    The cabinet side rails were in bad condition, they had a lot of unnecessary screw and nail holes and were so ugly. c Side Rails holes (resized).JPGc Side Rails holes (resized).JPG Side Rails with many ugly screw holes

    From game pictures and examining my other Williams games they were nailed originally on top and sides with small head nails and the holes filled prior lacquering.

    This lazy, ugly fix may have been because removing the one rail was the only way to get the playfield glass out due to the raised front panel stopping the glass sliding out the front.
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    I removed the front panel and deepened the depth of the bottom panel slot so it could sit lower and flush with the cabinet sides and the glass will slide out now.
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    I used an oak wood filler to fill the holes and smooth out other warping of the wood. It’s still a bit early in the restore process to see how all this will come out. I painted some wood lines on the smooth filler.
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    As usual no back door or with this game no two back doors.

    Painting

    I use auto paints as I am a little particular to get the colors correct and this is the easiest way for me. I find the closest Pantone color swatch and bring to my local AJ Foyt store for the girls to mix accordingly by eye and they are usually spot on. I screwed up this time, don’t know what I was thinking when I ordered the paint I asked them to mix twice as much as needed and it is really expensive. I have enough to paint another machine. I think my recent double game Major League restore confused my quantities me and I repeated the double order.

    So as not to do what I did if you are ordering more than the quantity for a baseball game. Typical amount needed for one game is;
    • 1 quart Primer epoxy and a pint of epoxy hardener
    • ½ gallon Base color and equal amount of Urethane Reducer
    • Color, red white and blue 1 pint and equal amount of Urethane Reducer
    • Clear 2pac 1 quart and Medium Hardener
    This all in is about $350 per game. Getting too expensive from what I paid a couple of years ago.

    The paint goes on beautifully and dries in minutes. Beautiful to work with. It takes a while to paint a cabinet using stencils and waiting for the paint to be fully dry.

    Here is the process in pictures:

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    i Cabinet ready for painting (resized).JPGi Cabinet ready for painting (resized).JPG Cabinet ready for priming and painting the base yellow coat.
    First the 2 part epoxy primer on all wood surfaces is completed and then the parts can be left to fully cure

    j Parts epoxy primed (resized).JPGj Parts epoxy primed (resized).JPG Primer dries in minutes to the touch.

    k Cabinet primed and painted (resized).JPGk Cabinet primed and painted (resized).JPG Lower Cabinet primed left 30 minutes and then painted
    This game as mentioned has a blue and white ‘hairy splatter’ that needs to be applied after the base yellow.

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    m Hairy Splatter (resized).JPGm Hairy Splatter (resized).JPG New ‘Hairy Splatter’

    I was able to add the splatter but with some difficulty. I added blue and then white to some Kyron silver marbling spray and thinner and sprayed with rapid sweeping motions otherwise I got perfect webbing.
    n 1 White Stencil (resized).JPGn 1 White Stencil (resized).JPG Stencils cut out and tacky glued in position.

    2 White Stencil removed (resized).JPG2 White Stencil removed (resized).JPG Stencil removed after 5-10 minutes application of 3 or so white coats.
    3 White Stencil front (resized).JPG3 White Stencil front (resized).JPG Same process for front. The original paint stencil was skewed about 3/16”. As I have to trace the original art I am now trying to fix this manually.

    4 White front stencil removed (resized).JPG4 White front stencil removed (resized).JPG Stencil removed after 5-10 minutes application of 3 or so white coats. Most of the original misalignment is removed and edges are sharp.

    5 Blue lower stripe added (resized).JPG5 Blue lower stripe added (resized).JPG Added the bottom blue strip to 3 sides and made them line up not like the original.

    6 Blue Stencil paint (resized).JPG6 Blue Stencil paint (resized).JPG Traced the star positions on to cabinet wall then tacky glued the stencils in position.

    7 Blue stencil removed (resized).JPG7 Blue stencil removed (resized).JPG Used alcohol later to rub out the star pencil location marks. Not the best lower blue edge, but will touch up manually.

    8 Red stencil (resized).JPG8 Red stencil (resized).JPG Orangy red stencil covers the blue and sprayed.

    9 Red stencil removed (resized).JPG9 Red stencil removed (resized).JPG Stencil removed and it’s not too bad. Original stencils in the day were better.

    10 Front finished and touched up (resized).JPG10 Front finished and touched up (resized).JPG Finished the front. Used some frisket, an exacto knife and red paint a day or so later to nail the white, yellow red transition. Very happy with this and better than the original for once.

    11 Side art nearly complete (resized).JPG11 Side art nearly complete (resized).JPG

    n 11 a Back doors (resized).JPGn 11 a Back doors (resized).JPG
    New back doors.

    Coming along just need the blue men and some more stars, then clear to gloss out the colors. You have to be patient during the painting but the results are very good for another 25 years at least.

    I am still too wary to paint over with another color the same day due to use of tacky spray to stick on my stencils could lift of the first color. So with the making stencils and 4 colors on a 50’s game, it takes me a second weekend to finish out this phase.

    The use of stencils is still a work in progress as the quality can be impacted for a couple of reasons. The Grafix 0.007” clear plastic material comes on a tight roll. o stencil film (resized).jpgo stencil film (resized).jpg

    You need cut it so the curvature is concave against the surface to be sprayed. This means the edges won’t fight the tacky glue and lift away from the surface. Secondly cut the material (especially if using an electric heat cutter) on the side that will touch the work. This is because the melting process can leave a burr, so we want this on the side away from the surface being painted. You can sand the burrs and edges away.

    Upshot is I needed to still do some manual repairs prior clearing. Using scissors this time was OK but if there is a lot of curves the electric stencil cutter is still the way to go. I still hate making stencils as they are so time consuming but also so critical.
    p Blue Batters out to Play (resized).JPGp Blue Batters out to Play (resized).JPG That’s the painting done finally.

    I have this time got an additive to add to the clear to lessen the clear gloss. See what you think. It is more a semi-gloss and looks good.
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    #9 6 years ago
    Quoted from Biffbar:

    Impressive. Lots of work into that restoration, and it shows. Played the hell out of Short Stop while a family member owned one. Their game looked more like your "before" pictures.
    Edit: Cool animated Williams titles in the background. Have a Sea Jockeys project to finish some day (hoping for Shay or someone to do the backglass).

    I like animated games. Baseball, horsey or bingo all cool.

    #10 6 years ago

    Ready to fix the legs and lacquer the wood edges and this phase will be done.

    The legs were originally black I believe. I think what I got with the game where the correct legs. However, there were traces of the cabinet paint on the inside of the legs and they were plated so makes me wonder. The black paint was chalking and looks quite sorry so off it comes. I removed the feet and tossed and gave the the legs a bath in Evaporust prior priming. I will repaint black and clear along with the front moulding later. Need to check the leg color. Will pm Novaguy he will know.

    The bare side oak wood needed reconnecting to the cabinet sides and all the wood sprayed with acrylic re-lacquer a bunch of times and they will look very good. This time as the humidity has got so high I got a milky coat when spraying. I resprayed when not so humid and the lacquer all clears again and looks fabulous. The original rails not so good due to what I started with.
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    I believe I am wrong with black legs, should be red, almost positive. Guys here on Pinside have red legs on their games.
    DSC06111 (resized).JPGDSC06111 (resized).JPGAuto Cleared with a semi-gloss. Let the paint harden up for a week or so before placing on the game.

    Sent my money and the original back glass to Steve Azzam at Bgresto so now in the queue for a new glass hopefully by the end of the year to finish of the game.

    #12 6 years ago

    Pitching Motor Gear Box Overhaul on 1958 E5613 Pitch unit; Spec 14A-7726A, 50 Volt, 17 RPM

    This early pitching motor gearbox is a lot less robust than the pitching gearboxes a few years later. Williams increased the motor size on the Official Baseball game in 1960 with a larger armature and a beefier gearbox. This game has a pressed steel gearbox closed housing as you can see.
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    It currently cannot drive the pitching mechanism and barely turns. So need to drill out the rivets and see what is going on inside.
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    All good inside, that’s a relief. Possibly the pins that hold the cogs in position were not properly aligned in the holes in the casing. I re-lubed with some Magnalube and closed it up ensuring that the cog pins were placed correctly and secured with new rivets.

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    I powered up and it purred.

    I took the Pitching unit apart next, cleaned it and rebuilt it ensuring the pitching spring was as well positioned as I could. I added the motor and it all worked perfectly.
    All overhauled ready for another 25 years.
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    If you want to overhaul your pitching unit here is a link to later game, it’s exactly unit as this game. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/williams-1963-major-league-restoration post #33.

    Pitching Unit Fast Ball Coil

    Also something I was not aware off. Later games have a fast ball coil plunger return spring, this game has not. And it works fine without it. Try to get the later games to work without the spring. I can’t, go figure.
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    #14 6 years ago
    Quoted from singlezero:

    there is a bg at shays for this? Nice work !

    Yes I know but it is plexiglass I believe and there is detail missing. For the same money I can get a bgresto glass and the detail included. Just got to wait a while.

    #16 6 years ago
    Quoted from Half_Life:

    Steve,
    I'm enjoying watching your work on this project. Lots of attention to detail. Thanks for sharing.
    Phil

    Thanks Phil,

    I want these old games restored and the devil is in the detail.

    I have found the parts have changes year by year too subtle sometimes for even the parts # to catch. Also a lot of parts have been switched from different games to keep the games going.

    Regards Steve

    1 week later
    #18 6 years ago
    Quoted from singlezero:

    thanks for the heads up then . Ill look for a pic of this when you get it. My friend and I have been holding back to buy bgs for our shortstops!

    Saw your post and went to the bgresto site and Steve has just completed the art and put up on the site. Looks real good. See what you think.

    http://bgresto.com/?p=1962

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    #20 6 years ago
    Quoted from singlezero:

    thats awesome! i think you were talking to my friend ted about leg colours and ill let him know. i would prefer glass myself too. ive been holding back on mine , its functional and complete, but the fear of losing so much paint from the existing deterred me from doing anything with it. i dont plan on going to the great detail you have with yours, but nothing makes a game its best with a new bg too.!

    I am looking forward to getting this Backglass from Steve. Your right the bg makes so much difference. I enjoy the full restore as much or more than playing. Part or the hobby for me. Glad you guys stopped me painting them legs black.

    #21 6 years ago

    The door restoration is next. It has a hammer finish.

    Nico Volta commented to me at the 2016 Houston Arcade Expo last year that there was a better hammer finish recommended to him than than I was using. It’s actually by Restoleum, it’s not cheap and here is the link. ebay.com link: 3 Pk Hammerite Rust Cap 12 Oz Gray Gloss Metal Hammered Finish Spray Paint 41145
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    To be clear the original game hammer finish is not that impressive as I was able to find the original paint under the William’s logo plate.
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    Here is the result you judge. It’s a little darker but the finish is superior to products you find in a box store.

    Home Run Plate

    The Home Run metal plate has seen better days. Time to repaint it. I made a decal for the home run wording and it’s available as a pdf for anyone that wants it, just pm me.
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    5 HR White (resized).JPG5 HR White (resized).JPG Home Run sign re-painted and ready for the decal

    I learned that you need to clear prior adding the decal as the decal needs a flat surface to stick to. The white paint was not as smooth and you can see that through the yellow decal. However you need to put your face in a foot of the decal so no need to redo.

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    Last item to be restored is the front moulding. As stated earlier I scanned and cleaned up the original moulding and made an overlay. It was made in a matt this time but after it was cleared it pops.
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    8 Moulding after clear (resized).JPG8 Moulding after clear (resized).JPG Overlay applied and cleared with 2PAC

    The 2 Pac will be carefully worked in a couple of weeks from 1000 thru 2000 grit and finished with a swirl remover polish and it will look similar to the original laminate.

    With the painting largely done I have a few directions on what to tackle next. I have still to take apart the light box parts and clean and overhaul the running man.
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    This will involve both painting of the running man ‘park’ and cleaning and overhauling of the mechanical parts. Each will take a couple of weekends.
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    I also had a pm from a fellow pinsider trying to rewire a hacked game so the third option is to rebuild the bottom board and assist in that games rewiring. As I do these detailed restore write ups to help others to fix these old games that is the next thing to tackle in this restoration.

    #25 6 years ago
    Quoted from jodini:

    You're the guy that stold this game out of my town! Glad you got it! You're doing awesome! Better than I would of done! I hate repainting cabinets.
    Would love to see a video of this machine in action when you are all done!
    Joe

    Hi Joe,

    Ha Ha,
    I have got three games from Nebraska now. Maxwell is hundreds of miles from anywhere.

    #27 6 years ago

    I question that motor Gearbox as a correct substitute motor. When you take it off (4 screws) check what the motor rpm is. If there is another part # let us know. It needs to be have a 17 rpm or close speed.

    To your question

    Are you talking about the 1st Reduction gear? See pic below.
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    If so Steve at PBR will fix for you. About $100 + parts. He turns around quick. See link attached and scroll to the bottom of the page. http://www.pbresource.com/motor.html

    If you are handy and the part is the first reduction gear and you have a rivet press that can handle 1/4" rivet size then go that route. Steve charges $36 for that kit. See the correct kit below.
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    Last pic is a parts list that 'Newmantjn' posted to help people a few years ago.
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    Either way you have to call Steve Young (number is on the link) so he is sure that he gives you the correct parts and you can do the repair yourself if you go that route.

    #29 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    New to Pinside and Joining the thread. Thank you to Steve for the prior assistance. Working on same machine and came across a Williams Pitch Motor 14-7726 gear problem. Motor works fine accept for black nylon gear is damaged that the small brass gear from actual motor seeds into. Can this gear be replaced?

    As I believe the problem 'replaced' motor has not the correct rpm. Instead of going to pbr for repair a cheaper and faster solution is to use a similar Williams 50v score motor. There is an NOS one on ebay by a good seller and free shipping.

    See link ebay.com link: Williams coin operated pinball baseball motor 6738A Spec 440 Score motor

    #31 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    I viewed the Ebay Motor 6738a (spec 440). My motor has an rpm of 24 and 50 volts and the 6738a motor on Ebay specifies 45 volt and 17 rpm. Will this be a problem?

    The E-5613 pitching unit actually is designed for 17 rpm. See the attached link that gives a lot of info for these baseball games. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/williams-baseball-game-motor-coils-and-bat-assembly-information#post-3147457

    The game voltage for motors on your game is 45Volt so the ebay motor will work.

    #33 6 years ago

    Just sent Matt Ward a bunch of Pic's of the bottom board so he can sort out his hacked Short Stop. 3 games being restored/repaired now, very rewarding.

    Here the board all restored and ready to drop into the game once I add a new power cord.

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    #37 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    Great job on the restoration.
    More questions:
    1. I am having a few wiring issues myself, can you send close up photos of the completed meter board with wiring as well as relay row.
    2. What is the best cleaning agents to clean the metal parts (brackets, relay harness', etc) and wiring harness?
    3. What paint type of paint did you use on the Transformer (Red)?
    I am terrible at before photos: Running man unit completed.

    1. Meter Board Wiring
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    1b Relay Row
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    2. I clean the grease of as best as possible with my Ultrasonic cleaner using any de-greaser on hand and water. I dry off and if not to big a part it goes in the tumbler. Bigger pieces I clean by hand and polish with what metal polish is again at hand.

    3. ha, again a red spray paint from a box store. The transformer needs wire brushing with a dremel so it is clean. I paint them as they are ugly enough that they need it.

    Your game looks in nice condition, hope you get it going again soon.

    #40 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    To bring you up to where I am at on the project. All burnt/bad coils have been replaced, all wiring fixed, and other items maintained. I did set the machine to free play so I can diagnose any problems, etc.
    Any help on the following questions:
    Question 1: Is the bat relay a Hold relay? Example: Pitch a ball (do not swing) and when the ball goes down the Strike trough it fires the bat relay and it stays energized), does the same when I swing the bat. However, after making another pitch, the relay turns off.
    Question 2: The machine only had two of the meters and they were totally removed with the wires capped off. Does this affect the match play, name replay if they are not connected/installed?
    Question 3: In regard to the Match Rotating Stepper Unit - Is there an exact homing location on this?

    Question 1: Is the bat relay a Hold relay? Example: Pitch a ball (do not swing) and when the ball goes down the Strike trough it fires the bat relay and it stays energized), does the same when I swing the bat. However, after making another pitch, the relay turns off.

    Answer; The Bat relay is a Z-32-2300 so it can be on for a while, you could step away from the game for a time and the bat relay coil is fine. Edit: However, as described below the strike switch should re-energize the bat relay once the ball hits the trough strike switch. The energized bat relay 'appears to stay energized as the this enables the bat lever to strike only once.

    If you do not swing the bat on a pitch its a strike. The bat relay should energize when the bat EOS closes or the ball goes past the trough strike switch. So look at the pitcher unit make break switch first it may be closed when it should be open.

    From a review of the schematic, the strike stepper has 4 positions. I believe it is 0 ‘out’ through 3 ‘outs’ which ends the inning. So if you swing and miss and it’s a strike you get penalized an ‘out’. As usual if you hit the ball you can be out depending if the ball ends up in an out hole.

    The snippet below shows the switches:
    • Yellow highlights denote the power source via the strike relay to energize the bar relay and the trough switch that energizes
    the Strike stepper step up.
    • Mauve highlights denote the power source from the Pitch unit that energizes the bat relay.
    • In blue pen cloud are the Pitching Unit switches. This is where there could be a switch that is staying closed.

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    Question 2: The machine only had two of the meters and they were totally removed with the wires capped off. Does this affect the match play, name replay if they are not connected/installed?

    Answer; No.

    Question 3: In regard to the Match Rotating Stepper Unit - Is there an exact homing location on this?
    Answer; No. It has no reset coil.

    #42 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    On the relay wiring: Please see your relay wiring photo with details of my questions.

    Question; Does the yellow wire from the Reset Hold relay connect to the third leaf on the 25c Relay?

    Answer yes it does.
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    Question; Does the yellow wire connect to the Index relay connect to the 8th leaf on the bottom row of the same relay?

    Answer; yes it does along with the blue/red wire.
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    #43 6 years ago

    I have not seen any pictures about reviewing and lubing these older pressed steel gearboxes. I added the Pitching gearbox earlier. This is the score motor; 50 Volts and 17 rpm. A few years later Williams moved to open frame gearboxes. Same part # but probably the spec # was changed.

    Similar to the pitching motor outside not sure inside.
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    Original Gearbox with motor.
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    Score Motor Gearbox removed from frame along with coil, Rotor Assembly, spring and rotor shaft.
    Remove the motor and armature. Don’t lose the little spring on the shaft as this is very important to Williams’s motor operation.
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    I put in my vice and drill out the rivets.
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    Open up the shell, and cross your fingers that all teeth etc are present. They are! We don’t want a problem here as anything inside is made of ‘nonobtainium’. If you do you will need to find a later model open frame, they will fit perfectly just won’t be original but at this age of game that is a small potato issue.
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    Why is it wet? …well I throw everything in my ultrasonic and give it a heated bath. I cleaned up the parts and reassembled. The nylon gears do not need lubrication. I may have smeared on some Teflon lube but it is not needed, just can’t help it.
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    New rivets and gearbox is ready for another 25 years.

    #46 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    Sent my pitch motor off to Steve's pinball for repair and will troubleshoot the bat relay problem when I get the part back.
    While this is being completed I started on the coin area. Found another questionable wire problem: Attached is a photo with questions on it. Does not appear to be correct with the Tilt lead going to the coin switch but I could be wrong.

    Wiring seems OK. Yes the two redissh wires both go to the same right side of the micro switch if you had one.

    Attached is my door with the wiring I believe as original.

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    #48 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    At the microswitch to the left - does the Red wire have two connections - with a lead running from that switch to the Tilt?

    It's actually a red/black wire and yes its the door anti slam switch it is in series before the two door coin switches that powers the 25c relay.

    You need to get a schematic, it will assist you greatly.

    #50 6 years ago

    I got my schematic on eBay. A few bucks more but there was a red small schematic that seems to be original and another copy like Steve at PBR provides. There was another item too. Have a search on eBay the seller has multiple copies.

    #51 6 years ago

    The next item to tackle was the running man.

    1 running man (resized).jpg1 running man (resized).jpg A Refinished Running man 3D Visualization

    The running man is a clever 3D visualization of what is happening in the game. The unit is operated by a motor with a gearbox with a double shaft operating cams and switches on one end and the running men on the other.

    2 DSC06215 (resized).JPG2 DSC06215 (resized).JPG I removed the player caricatures including the runners and stored in a safe place early on in the restoration.

    The motor when assembled would turn but it seemed to have too much resistance. I want to check the running man motor & gearbox and ensure it is clean and ready for another 25 years playing ball as it is the heart of the game. To get to the gearbox we need to remove all the wiring harness and switches. This gives us access to remove the cam wheel by hammering out the spring pin and this exposes the screws that hold the gearbox to the frame. Alas, as usual the cam wheel is 'frozen' to the shaft.

    3 DSC06222 (resized).JPG3 DSC06222 (resized).JPG I was initially stumped how to safely remove the cam wheel. Usually I can get them to turn a bit but this time not. Time for plan b.

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    Plan b was to drill out the visible gearbox 3/16” rivet flared ends and then punch out the rivets, remove the gearbox top housing exposing the gears etc and the main shaft, invert the housing so i can then 'drive the shaft out of the cam wheel with a punch .
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    It worked perfectly. Look at the old caked on grease and grime on the cogs.

    6 DSC06230 (resized).JPG6 DSC06230 (resized).JPG The main shaft was still frozen into the brass bearing so some gentle tapping was necessary to push it out of the housing.

    It was easy to remove the gearbox exposed screws now and then separate the cam from the shaft in a vice with a soft hammer. On visual examination the brass bearings are not worn and they can be left in place.

    Next step was to place all parts including the motor in the ultrasonic cleaner in a Zep orange solution or such. Do not use a degreaser cleaner like Zep Purple Cleaner as it is very bad for brass and aluminum. After a good clean and scrub I dry the parts and put in a tumbler with walnut shells and any metal polish that is a scratch remover for 24 hours to get them clean.
    24 hours later…..

    8 DSC06266 (resized).JPG8 DSC06266 (resized).JPG We need to replace the new 3/16” rivets. They were originally brass as what Steve at PBR has in his replacement packs but I replace with copper tubing from a roll at Ace Hardware.

    10 DSC06268 (resized).JPG10 DSC06268 (resized).JPG The length of the rivet needs to be the same length of all the parts put back together, no more no less. So the housing and spacer is 1 9/16” long so I cut for rivets with a tube cutter. The ends need to be deburred inside and out. I use a dremel outside and an exacto knife inside the tube.

    13 DSC06271 (resized).JPG13 DSC06271 (resized).JPG New rivets. They are a little curvy but will work as the material is so soft. I gently tap the rivets into the housing and it all seems to work quite well.

    14 DSC06274 (resized).JPG14 DSC06274 (resized).JPG It’s important to take pictures so the washers go back as you found them. This motor has no spring on the rotor spindle so if you do what I am describing you can stop looking for it on a running man motor as you did not lose it. I had to find two spare running man motors and check there was not one installed, phew!

    17 DSC06278 (resized).JPG17 DSC06278 (resized).JPG Before I re-rivet, I clamp the motor together and make sure that the cogs all turn easily. We need to remove all misalignment.

    18 DSC06279 (resized).JPG18 DSC06279 (resized).JPG A bench test with a 50V motor and this baby is humming.

    19 DSC06280 (resized).JPG19 DSC06280 (resized).JPG I remove the clamps and use my rivet press to squeeze the rivets and we are done. One final bench test and this motor can go back in the game for another 25 years.

    #53 6 years ago

    Nice job on the game it looks real good.

    Possibly you could take a pic for me. I forgot how the lights went onto the wooden support for the "One bats while one pitches".

    1 week later
    #58 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    Been away from the final repairs: The machine is fully functional and I finally figured out that dreaded Bat Relay problem. After hours of checking the switches and following the wiring diagram (all was correct), it actually turned out to be a simple fix. When the bat relay would fire, the gap in the open switch (noted on photo) was actually set too close together. The current was too strong for the spring to pull it back open and it would stay locked on. I adjusted the switch to where it barely touches and problem solved. I will post a live video of the machine after I move it to its final location.

    Glad you got the bat relay issue fixed. So it turned out to be a mechanical fix of electrical parts, sometimes it’s the case.

    Edit: I am unsure looking at the large bat relay that the relay is meant to power off. If so the 110V to operate the bat lever and bat coil work be activated every time it is operated. It seems different to later games that don’t have the strikeout feature. The earlier 57 model logic is also way different with a huge 110volt coil that was changed to a 50/24 volt coil in later games.

    1 week later
    #59 6 years ago

    I keep having to go away for work so getting the running man and the light box completed has been neglected. Thank goodness for before pictures, memory will not cut it. I like to spruce up the ‘players’ diamond and outfield. Time takes a toll on this part so a spruce up is always a nice touch.
    1 Original running man (resized).jpg1 Original running man (resized).jpg Typical ‘Players’ Diamond before restoration, you can clearly see the fade.

    First job is to repaint the bottom with some grey paint. I usually get the little paint pot samples from Lowes as the need to repaint the back of play-fields happens no more than twice a year.
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    It’s now time now to paint the new ‘green spring’ grass color replacing the old summer water parched 60 year old grass. Painting is straightforward using frisket and an exacto blade to prepare for painting or to make homemade stencils. Once the underside paint first step is dry the first step is to lightly sand the old paint to give the new paint some tooth. Follow by frisketing the area to be painted and with an exacto blade carefully cut on the paint lines the areas for painting. Wait to next day and frisket again the top and carefully cut around the ‘dirt’ diamond area. The following day frisket and repaint new white lines over the diamond etc. Straight after I spray auto clear to make it all pop.

    This time however, I had the dreaded auto clear orange peel result, I did not expect that. I know I caused the issue, either I wiped the surface down with a contaminated painters rag when I used naphtha to remove the frisket glue. I had been waxing and polishing some parts so I may not have used a clean rag. Any way it is fixable with an eye drop and more clear. Just takes time.
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    I had added a heavy coat, so once the clear was eye dropped into all the areas we can sand with a 220 grit paper and in ten minutes the surface was ready for re-clearing. This time I sanded the following week with 800 grit, up to 2000 grit (15 minutes) and polished with Maguire’s Swirl Remover and Bobs your uncle.
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    I have reassembled the running man and replaced the player caricatures and runners. If anyone wants to replace their men or spruce them up I am linking you to an earlier post where we had to remake the men. Scroll to post #71. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/williams-1963-major-league-restoration/page/2

    The cardboard background in unique on this game. It is taller than other games and usually needs replacing due to tears and splits. I have added the original background back to the game but it’s very brittle. I have made scans and will fix the artwork and will have it remade. If anyone is interested in new copies of the crowd backdrop, sides and the 2 player banner let me know.
    I use vinegar or something as gentle to get the dirt off. Just be slow and it all gets clean without damaging the surface.
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    I reinstalled the completed running man with the other restored components. Its starting to look like progress is being made.
    7 Running Man fitted. (resized).JPG7 Running Man fitted. (resized).JPG The last thing for this phase is replacing the perspex curved window. The original is 1/8” thick and needs driving into the slot. It did so but although I cleaned it well its 60 years old and detracts from the rest of the game. I looked around and found a PETG subsitute that will be brilliantly clear and only half as thick.
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    The window thickness is important as the wood that retains this window is now brittle and less strong, no need to stress the wood further than needed. I had to replace a portion of the curved wood during the early restoration and did not want to do this again after painting. The new material being flexible and thinner slid in easily.
    9 Fitted PETG window (resized).JPG9 Fitted PETG window (resized).JPG This new piece of PETG is cheap to replace if it gets scratched and will last a long time in a home environment.

    #61 6 years ago
    Quoted from Half_Life:

    Dang Steve, this is looking real nice! I especially like how the running man box restoration went.
    A tip for future restorations. Instead of an xacto knife, for cutting stencils, frisket, etc, I use a scalpel and either a #11 blade (straight and pointed) or a #10 blade (rounded edge). I've found that the scalpel blades are made of a higher quality steel, retain their edges longer and cut much thinner lines. I also find them a bit easier to maneuver. The last ones I bought were on Amazon; $4 for the handle and about $5 for a box of 100 blades.
    Thanks for continuing to share your progress. I'll bet this will be beautiful when done.

    That's a good tip. I go thru packs of blades. Will try scalpel blades next.

    #62 6 years ago
    Quoted from SDOHIO67:

    Let me know if these work for you.

    Perfect pic's, thank you.

    #63 6 years ago

    Lite Box Board

    The lite and reels are mounted on a one piece board. This time I removed the light wiring harness to repaint the frame. There is a lot going on in this lite box and it will take some time to strip down, clean, polish and rebuild.

    I used again a box store ‘white’ pot sample to paint the light reflecting side.
    10 Lite Board New Paint Front (resized).JPG10 Lite Board New Paint Front (resized).JPG Front with a new light reflecting coat of paint

    I sprayed the back yellow. This strip down gave me a good opportunity to clean the light holders before putting back in place and re-stapling. As this yellow has a matt finish I needed to clear coat with something.

    Here is a question I should ask guys on the restore forum; what do they do with unused auto clear. I get an urge not to waste it and spray something….anything, example fence posts, my air receiver, the neighbor’s cat, something. Anyway, I usually resist and dispose of it into a waste 5 gallon container but as I was re-clearing the ‘players’ surface I gave the yellow coat on the light box frame a cool heavy coat of auto clear.
    11 Lite Board New Paint back (resized).JPG11 Lite Board New Paint back (resized).JPG Rear of Lite board repainted, clear coated and lite holders reinstalled.

    The parts of the steppers score reels, relays etc were all cleaned, tumbled and polished. Now to reassemble. The wire harness was soaked (cleaned with a tooth brush) in a diluted ZEP orange cleaner overnight & rinsed. The water was blown out with an air compressor and left to totally dry for a day or so. I then clean the switch leafs and contacts with my dremel as best I can.

    Parts laid out ready for reassembly. We will need our strip down pictures to put this all back together.
    12 Parts to reassembled 1 (resized).JPG12 Parts to reassembled 1 (resized).JPG
    13 Parts to reassembled 2 (resized).JPG13 Parts to reassembled 2 (resized).JPG I must admit that once I saw this bunch of parts, I lost some enthusiasm to start the work. I decided that getting in the Christmas mood was more important. Wow …but it’s just a lite box.

    #67 6 years ago
    Quoted from Atari_Daze:

    How much clear are you mixing? I'm still very new to this stuff but have learned to mix and spray as little as 50cc of clear, in medicine cups, (my brand of clear ratio is 4) I found this amount is just about right for a light to medium layer on a standard playfield in order to clear between paint.

    Spot on observation. I am concentrating on the PPG/OMNI 2 mixture and addition of the clear flattening agent. I pour some clear and then have to get the mix correct. I usually have a few things waiting for clear so I mix too much. I don't really spray cats... they are way too fast.

    #69 6 years ago

    I have storage boxes of paints and have different storage results. The acrylics seem to survive storage for a while.

    Regarding other paints like latex however, I find they go solid quite quickly along with the polyurethanes. That's why I am using sample pots now for the white and grey needs.

    I think that I am too messy and get product around the top and they don't reseal every time when I hammer on the lids.

    1 week later
    #70 6 years ago

    The playfield is next and the new backglass from Bgresto when it finally shows up.
    1 Playfield (resized).JPG1 Playfield (resized).JPG
    The playfield is straight forward enough to clean and repaint the trim if needed. The laminate surface stands the test of time very well as long as there is a protective glass to protect it from falling objects. It has an interesting bat 3 part arrangement (C-5161) that was modified by Williams to a plastic bat a couple of years later on the 1960 Deluxe Official Baseball Game. The original C-5161 and C-5161-1 driver arm have a bat with a shaft similar to a flipper shaft and an assembly arm. This three piece arrangement (bat and shaft are two separate pieces) was replaced on the ‘Official Baseball’ C-5161-2 game with a more modern version three piece arrangement.
    2 Bat Assembly (resized).JPG2 Bat Assembly (resized).JPG Bat Unit

    The early C-5161 bat has a cotter pin on the shaft that allowed the bat and shaft to be fitted from the top of the playfield with a smaller hole in the playfield. This was simplified a year or so later to the final two piece arrangement (not changed since) and although not really necessary the cotter pin was nice engineering in my view.
    3 Bat Lever Connection (resized).JPG3 Bat Lever Connection (resized).JPG So disassembly and restoration apart from the bat lever is simple. I remove all the metal parts and put in the tumbler, repaint any painted trim and clean the laminate playfield surface. Regarding the bat you need to drive out the pins to remove the bat from the spindle. I put some painters tape on the surface to protect the laminate when I used my hammer. The bat spindle will pullout from below when the linkage is removed.

    The original scoring cards are in surprisingly good condition. Probably as they had clear protective covers.
    4 Score Cards (resized).JPG4 Score Cards (resized).JPG Score Cards

    After stripping the playfield the smaller metal parts were put in the tumbler for a day. The playfield was cleaned and polished with Gel-Gloss and the backs sanded and hand painted grey. The wiring harness was added to a container with a weak mix of Zep orange cleaner and water that seems to brighten the copper switches and is a good cleaner of the cloth wiring. After a day or so soaking I clean with a tooth brush and leave it to dry.

    Finally we get to spruce up the trim in a nice red color and clear. I add some flattening agent to take the high gloss edge of the clear and it looks like new.

    5 Refreshed Trim (resized).JPG5 Refreshed Trim (resized).JPG So it’s already to put back together but I need to leave a few days for the paint and clear to harden some more.

    Earlier I said I would remake the cardboard running man art. The cardboard on this game is in reasonable condition but it is held together by pasted on white paper or it would fall apart.
    5a Running Man Art (resized).JPG5a Running Man Art (resized).JPG Original Art on Game

    If you have to remove the running man it is only time before it gets bent and torn. So I scanned the art and cleaned it up in photo shop. Fast signs can make it on a 0.060” plastic sheet and this is the way to go. It will last another 60 years easy. I will keep the original with the game along with the labels I change.
    6 SHORT STOP MARQUE FINAL (resized).jpg6 SHORT STOP MARQUE FINAL (resized).jpg
    9 BANNER ART FINAL (resized).jpg9 BANNER ART FINAL (resized).jpg
    7 Banner Left Final (resized).jpg7 Banner Left Final (resized).jpg
    8 Banner Right Final (resized).jpg8 Banner Right Final (resized).jpg

    If anyone is interested in new running man marque art sides for their game let me know as it is unique to this game. Still haven’t found the game that the Pin Rescue guys in Australia made their crowd marque for as it is too short in height.

    #72 6 years ago
    Quoted from dkatgs:

    Great job documenting your 58 Short Stop restoration! Picked up the same model a month back and I can’t tell you how much your images have helped me out…Thanks!
    I have a question on whether to refinish the cabinet or leave it original? It would be great to get a few opinions on the matter. Seems like the collectors say to leave it as original as possible but then I see how great yours looks I think I should redo it. I also do not want to sand down the wood and lose the original patina. Here are a few photos with it all cleaned up. It’s running great after fixing a few broken wires, disassembling and cleaning batting and pitching units, and finding a wood screw shorting out two wires on the cabinet connector. The running man unit is in very good condition! Backglass is also in awesome condition for being almost 60 years old!
    This is my second restore of a pitch & bat machine…first was a ’55 Chicago Coin Big League Deluxe “Bullseye”. Like you I’m waiting for my backglass from Steve at Bgresto, been 4 months but I hear he is a busy guy and its worth the wait. You may also notice the red pitch button on the panel, if you know where I could find a metal button (like the other side) it would be greatly appreciated. I really enjoy the challenge of getting these games up to 100% operational and I am now looking for my third.
    One question I have for you is would you be willing to sell me the overlay you made for the pitch and bat molding? Replacing this one item would make the game look so much better.
    Thanks again for your posts, if there is any thing I can help you with let me know.
    Dave

    Dave,
    Nice Game. The lower cabinet is not original so I say paint it. It originally had a hairy blue and white splatter. The blue was also lighter. The button you refer to is it the same as a metal one on the short stop? If so I may have one.

    Let me look if I have another overlay, its yours for the cost from fast signs. If you apply a coat of clear and sand it down like I did the finish is the same as the laminate except its as new. so this is a worth while improvement.

    #76 6 years ago
    Quoted from dkatgs:

    Hi Steve, Thanks for your advice on painting the cabinet. Now that I know it's not orignal I plan on repainting it soon, it is a poor paint job, the colors came right off on the cloth while cleaning it up? My Chicago Coin has a very durable paint job, used Magic Erasers on it and cleaned up quite nicely. Any help on overlays is greatly appreciated.
    The metal button on Short Stop is smaller in diameter (3/4") then the one I need for Big League (7/8"). I thought about switching the credit button from SS with the pitch button on BL but they are different sizes.

    Painting a cabinet is a personal choice, mine was flaking and had been touched up a long time ago. The game I got was unfortunately left in a barn the past 2 years and not protected in anyway from the elements in Nebraska so the cabinet paint was toast really.

    Regarding the buttons look at this picture. On the right is the Williams button. On the left is a 7/8" Gottlieb button. Would the Gottlieb button work?

    DSC06390 (resized).JPGDSC06390 (resized).JPG

    #77 6 years ago
    Quoted from tuffano:

    Very nice resto Steve.
    Question for you and everyone else. Has anyone found a replacement for the pitching mech torsion spring? I haven’t checked back with pinball resource in a year or so, but they were out of the larger diameter ones with no plans to order/make more. My 1963 Williams P&B uses the larger diameter which I need to find and my 1955 uses the smaller which PBR had.
    One of your pictures Steve for reference.

    I have been toying with getting a bunch made. Guess I need to make a few to get a decent price. I would need people to show interest they would buy a multiple spring order. Steve at PBR might get them made if people showed interest but I think we may have to get these made as a pay it forward project.

    #79 6 years ago
    Quoted from dkatgs:

    The Gottlieb button (7/8") would work! This would be the final touch to make my 1955 CC Big League Deluxe restored to 100% original parts. Let me know what you would like for the button and thanks again for your help.
    I'm pretty new to the forum so I'll try to send a private message with my address.

    Got your message. Overlay & button. Have for what I paid and postage.

    1 week later
    #80 6 years ago
    Quoted from dkatgs:

    The Gottlieb button (7/8") would work! This would be the final touch to make my 1955 CC Big League Deluxe restored to 100% original parts. Let me know what you would like for the button and thanks again for your help.
    I'm pretty new to the forum so I'll try to send a private message with my address.

    I found another metal button that is 7/8" dia and want a final confirmation of which button you need.

    DSC06391 (resized).JPGDSC06391 (resized).JPG

    #81 6 years ago

    Time to finish this game. The early baseball games have a rubber bat. People re tube the metal bat with black hose to various degrees of success. I had a large chuck missing in the back of mine and thought I would try a different idea.
    1 Bat Rubber Spray (resized).JPG1 Bat Rubber Spray (resized).JPG Spray on rubber!

    I protected the metal connector end and sprayed multiple layers of rubber over a few hours. It bubbles a bit as it solidifies so not sure how porous it might be.
    2 Bat Repair (resized).JPG2 Bat Repair (resized).JPG Looks pretty ugly. Anyway I left to harden for a week.

    It didn’t look any better but it was hard enough to work. I used my dremel with a sanding wheel and shaped it. It had a few air pockets that were uncovered by the sanding but quite small. I sprayed with Kyrlon clear and when dry it came out pretty good so I decided to use it on the game.
    3 Bat Repaired 1 (resized).JPG3 Bat Repaired 1 (resized).JPG Batting Side
    4 Bat Repaired 2 (resized).JPG4 Bat Repaired 2 (resized).JPGBackside

    I took my marque photo shopped sides to the local fast signs that does my work and had them make new signs on a 0.060” acrylic white sheet. Here is the result. I had to cut the curved sides but with shears this took a couple of minutes. I recommend this approach to new signage on old games as the cardboard becomes dry and very brittle. I left the old signs in the back if the game as they are part of the history. I will also change out all game labels and signage to cleaner versions as they were removed so not to get damaged in the cleaning. The original labels are put in the back of the game also.
    5 Crowd Marque as made. (resized).JPG5 Crowd Marque as made. (resized).JPG New Running man Marque crowd.

    If people need other games there is a vendor called Roundnose58 on eBay that sells a few versions for a reasonable price and they are very good.
    6 Crowd marque in Game (resized).JPG6 Crowd marque in Game (resized).JPG Marque fitted in the game.

    I had sent my backglass to Steve Azzam at Bgresto in August so time to contact to see where we are. I emailed him and got a reply the next day that it was being shipped and I would have in a couple of days. Goody!
    7 New Glass Arrives (resized).JPG7 New Glass Arrives (resized).JPG And here it is another seasonal gift.
    8 Glass Back (resized).JPG8 Glass Back (resized).JPG Looks perfect.
    9 Glass Front (resized).JPG9 Glass Front (resized).JPG Wow, that’s a great looking glass.
    10 New Glass and Marque installed (resized).JPG10 New Glass and Marque installed (resized).JPG And here it is in the game.

    If anyone wants a picture of the game with the lights working let me know. It all looked perfect to me.

    So the game is now ready for powering up however, as I bought this as a project I have never seen it work so it’s always a discovery process to get it going again. As usual it didn’t work straight away but with the schematic it didn’t take too long. Some of the switch contacts needed tweaking to make a better contact and as usual the score reels needed a little realigning. Otherwise in a couple of days they were all operating as designed. The game is fun and looks great.
    11 Front Moulding (resized).JPG11 Front Moulding (resized).JPG So all the cosmetics are complete and every switch and metal surface cleaned and polished. This is as faithful a restore as I can do. It’s still the original game but I remake and replace what is beyond repair and this included this time the power cable, cabinet paint, new back-glass, crowd marque and the moulding has an overlay. Oh also as I didn’t have any repainted red buttons on hand I used Scott Webb’s new aluminum anodized buttons and they look the bomb. The playfield glass is still the original plate glass probably and that will be replaced with safety glass in the New Year.
    12 Front Cabinet (resized).JPG12 Front Cabinet (resized).JPG
    13 Left Overview (resized).JPG13 Left Overview (resized).JPG Side View.
    14 Right Overview (resized).JPG14 Right Overview (resized).JPG Final view and my next project just found this week in Chandler, Texas when picking up a project Williams Big Daddy game.

    #82 6 years ago

    Here is the back-glass lighting effect. Never saw the original with the game working, it seems very good.
    15 Glass with lights Off (resized).JPG15 Glass with lights Off (resized).JPG Bgresto Back Glass

    I played the game with my wife this afternoon and the buzzer is real noisy and long. May have to silence it. The buzzer and the 2nd batter up lights flash to signal to the second player it’s their turn to bat.

    #85 6 years ago

    That's three early baseball restoration write ups in the bag from 58 thru 63. Think that with this 2 player example I am satisfied for a while. The game is quite eye catching and is fun to play.

    The only thing holding these games back is the pitcher spring being unavailable currently. I will research that. The spring is critical to providing the correct power to the ball pitch. Most now seem too under powered and this can detract from the fun of the game. It's the same as worn flippers.

    #87 6 years ago
    Quoted from Hitch9:

    I’d be in for a spring Steve, if you get that researched.

    I will contact a spring company and see what they will cost and how many.

    2 months later
    #88 6 years ago

    All, I have had the spring remade and have a number for resale.
    See my thread. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/williams-pitch-unit-springs-now-available#post-4262127 for availability.

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