The pin is rare but I think 1300 is all in . Never played one and the only thing that makes it interesting is the fact they did not make many .

Get and LED it out,then take great pictures of it and show it off.. I am sure you can get it for cheaper than 1300 if you wear your cool helmet with horns !

Jim

Man I am jealous . I have not bought a new pin in about 2 months ! This is the longest dry spell for me since I got into the hobby 4 years ago ..

Good luck on get some more pins !

Jim

I know from whence you speak....When I first saw the posted ad, I thought 'cool', but after about 3.8 minutes I came to my senses and realized what a dog this pin really is. Do a quick google on RGP and you'll see that even tho the pin has a low production rate, they come up for sale pretty often...Ask yourself why?

Get it for bonus with the other machines ! note of 7.3 on ipdb sounds sad.. but beautiful colors !

Anyone know what the upper flipper buttons are for?

Cabinet art is sweeet!

http://www.ipdb.org/images/651/image-3.jpg

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Don't know anything about it, but I have to agree with Dude, the cab is sweet. It just screams 80's arcade.

I played Defender a while back, I think you use the top flipper to hit a shot to lock the ball for extra ball. it's kind of hard to get the ball in the upper part of the playfield and that top flipper acts kind of like a catapult. Correct me if I am wrong Black_Rose. It was a fun pin and looked great in the dark.

I have one. $1300 is way too much unless it's in perfect shape. I think I paid $750 for mine but the backglass is in rough shape and it's not working correctly now (random tilts, resets, etc.)

One upper button is a "smart bomb" which drops all the alien drop down targets and the other one is "hyperspace", which acts like a player-controlled kickback for the left outlane. It's an intriguing game because the rules roughly parallel those of the arcade game and there are tons of drops. I have not played it much because I need to fix it.

defenders.jpg

One of my friends had one. It is a much better game than the ratings and production numbers suggest (like Cosmic Gunfight). it was brought out when Pinball was in crisis-hence the low numbers.
It has interesting sounds
lots of targets
Pop up targets on the play-field
Multiball
a manually activated out-lane kickback (which I tend to forget about until it is too late)
and a smart bomb feature that collects lit scaores, just like the defenders video game.

Its not the deepest but a good game non the less. In my opinion it must be worth 1000-1200 if in good working condition, because of its rarity and title.

Get it fixed it is worth it.

It's on my "to-do" list behind shopping HS2.

First Defender and now TFTC.....Your 'to-do' list is getting long!

I think this pin is way cool, but I'm an unapologetic Williams arcade fanboy. My only gripe is the lack of any background sounds. Would still be cool to own one.

Shawn

It's mine and I'm firm on the price. It has new drop target stickers, plastics and flipper coils/sleeves and 100% complete and working perfectly. I bought it back in 1997 and have taken very good care of it. I'm not making much on this after 14 years of giving it the good life. It was always a show piece for its rarity and didn't see much action.

Price guide from Mr. Pinball 2010 quotes $1400. If playfield and backglass are in above average condition,I definitely think this is a reasonable price. I would be tempted myself if I lived nearby.

Good luck with the sale Tekman, though I doubt you will need it.

Shawn

I owned one and if i was closer and did not just bought a new pin and looking at another in Atlanta.........

Just curious..... What other arcade games became pinball?

SI
Joust
Defender
Pacman
Qbert

Others?

Hi Tekman. Post some pictures! If it's nice as you say it is, i think your asking price is fair for something as rare as that machine is. They made 362? I guess the real proof will be if somebody pays it, though. It's a fun game that makes amusing video game noises. It's no AFM, that's for sure.

B_R had the link for pictures in his first post.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67343113@N07/sets/72157627845563805/

I will be making less than $280 from what I have in it. I feel that $280 is worth virtually zero wear in the last 14 years. Look at the pictures. The condition is relative to other existing Defenders and I'm not saying it's mint or I would be asking more.

If someone showed it some love clear coat will hide the swirls and most of the spots can be touched up easy. (black areas and insert edges)

Really would like to see a true collector of rare pins get this one.

No DMD BR, you won't keep it fifteen minutes lol....

Part it out. I'll give you 300 for the backglass

wouldn't it be cheaper for you to buy his complete machine and sell your's? just sayin'...

How so?

$750 + $300 + shipping = roughly $1100

compared with...

$1300 + $200 in gas and a day wasted. Rather spend my time/money on better games anyway. Defender is cool because of the rareness factor, but for $1300 there are tons of better games.

I really don't think the seller have a hard time selling this at all. I think what makes his price more sound, is the condition of the backglass... Supposedly, these backglasses were prone to flaking, big time... Ipdb says a run of 369 units; I'll bet just a little over half have a nice backglass...

If I was closer I might bite... wish it was a Cosmic Gunfight though!

I really don't think the seller have a hard time selling this at all. I think what makes his price more sound is the condition of the backglass... Supposedly, these backglasses were prone to flaking, big time... Ipdb says a run of 369 units; I'll bet just a liitle over half have a nice backglass...

If I was closer I might bite... wish it was a Cosmic Gunfight though!

I don't want to discuss the particulars of your transaction over the internet but your numbers are wrong. Either that or i didn't give that guy the right amount of money when he dropped it off.

Anyhow, I think his machine is nicer than your's and you'd be hard-pressed to get your's in the shape his is in for what he's asking.

You are 100% correct that your money would be better spent on better games!

It's probably the same situation as previous pins I've had before - No matter what the title or rarity pre DMD machines just don't get the love as their newer counterparts. I own a Rock Encore dedicated cabinet machine, less than 250 are shown to be made and dedicated cabinets were rarer still. However if I decide to ever sell it I probably couldn't give it away because it's pre DMD. It's kinda sad because some of the older titles were really great games....

I just sold mine for a grand and it didn't even work and had F-ed up backglass.

No he has like 50 and he's opening an arcade in NC. Let's get there and get drunk.

B_R, Just because I din't give you the time of day with your low ball $900 offer, you don't need to keep crying about it. I'm not trying to start anything, but seriously man, time to give it a rest.