Quoted from Catch86:
I had a few problems with start up on mine when I first got it. Turns out the Jones plugs were oxidized just enough. I cleaned them with Scotchbrite pads and then it started working.
Anytime anyone says "all I did was..." usually ends up with "ohhhhhh, well actually I had to do ... as well." Case in point. You say "I really didn't touch anything else while I was doing it!" , but before that you said "I did have to remove the three Jones plugs".
When trying to troubleshoot anything, I always ask for an exact sequence of what the person did. Every single detail is important. Sometimes these little things get skipped over and it makes it almost impossible to figure out. Well, at least it wastes alot of time.
Not saying it's the Jones plugs but every detail helps.
I get it The Jones plugs that I removed in this case were at the base near the coin box, which controls credits, coin values, etc. I know something got bumped somewhere along the way, hence why this thread exists. It's frustrating when it seems that you just look at the machine and something isn't working. All in part of EM ownership right?
I've had a chance to look at the manual and the schematics. I have a hard time reading and understanding schematics! I think the focus needs to be on the logic starting from when the credit button is pressed, since the ball does not kick out from the trough when starting a game.
From what I can tell, the Outhole Relay, is what tells the outhole kicker to energize. It looks like Switch F is what causes this:
"Opens in circuit to Tilt Relay & Ball Index Relay and closes to Left and Right Bonus S.U. (Step Up?) Coils and Ball Release Coil."
I'm assuming the ball release coil is what I'm thinking of as the outhole kicker coil.
Now, before this step occurs, I think I'm having a problem with the Outhole Relay failing to energize. The switches on the relay itself work, since I can manually press the relay and the events occur.
So the Outhole:
"Is energized by the Outhole Switch, Thru the Left Bonus Relay and Zero Switch on the Left Bonus Unit---Also by the Outhole Switch, Thru the Right Bonus Relay and the Zero Switch on the Right Bonus Unit"
The bonus counts down when either the Left Saucer or the Right Saucer Switches are closed. The bonus also counts when the ball enters the outhole (during a game).
Switches 2B and 2A on both Bonus Relays are in circuit to the Outhole Relay. I'll have to check those switches when I get home. Also the Zero Switches on the Bonus units. Am I headed in the right direction here?GP outhole relay (resized).jpgL & R Bonus Relay (resized).jpgL Bonus unit (resized).jpgR Bonus unit (resized).jpg