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Will this be the death of mechanical pinball?

By Davidus56

3 years ago

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    #202 2 years ago
    Quoted from Hazoff:

    Not in 5 years but eventually, young people today will never get into buying mechanical pinball machines but may embrace it via VR and as that tech matures companies could decide to give up on making pins for an easier money making operation. I don't really care as theres enough out there to last me the rest of my life and I really enjoy PinFX, the new Doom table is amazing, if I could play that with VR tech that really shines it would get a lot of playtime.

    totally disagree. VR will be huge, but it won't hurt pinball. in fact, just like The Pinball Arcade, VR pinball will only stoke MORE interest in real live pinball, not less. it's probably physical pinball's best hope for hooking a new generation.

    #204 2 years ago
    Quoted from Hazoff:

    I hope ur right but its tough for pinheads to not be optimistic, I mean pinball all but died in the late 90's just due to home consoles and arcade games, I doubt it would survive the rise of quality VR, the vast majority of people out there will never buy or seek out pinball machines, JMO and man do I want to be wrong.

    like i said, playing a pinball machine in VR will only make people more interested in the real thing, not less. look at The Pinball Arcade and the effect it had on the hobby (me and many others are only here because of that app). Pinball's appeal is its physicality. if someone likes playing it in VR it will only make them want to play real pinball more, not less.

    home consoles killed interest in dropping coins to play anything, video games and pinball alike. and now smart phones have come along and put another bullet in the brain of casual coin drop. that model's not coming back as a primary means of earning money or gaining enthusiasts.

    but luckily, pinball has evolved beyond casual coin drop being a first-tier necessity. right now, it's the least successful aspect of the current pinball world, and really only makes up a small part of what's going on in the hobby today. Pinball is thriving from a perspective of in-home collecting, and thriving in terms of competitive tournaments and leagues. casual coin drop is still more or less dead and will likely remain so.

    pinball's advantage is that it is uniquely physical and mechanical in a world where almost nothing is anymore. that gives it a way to genuinely stand out from other forms of gaming and entertainment. I don't think "kids today" are inherently any dumber or lazier than any previous generation. i think if exposed to pinball (through VR), a lot of them will recognize what makes it cool and amazing, same as us.

    #214 2 years ago
    Quoted from toyotaboy:

    I really don't like the vinyl ANALOG argument. Yes, there are SOME people that still collect vinyl, or hold onto their physical CD's. I'd say based on all music sales, vinyl is still probably only 1-2%.

    actually it accounts for 5% of all music album sales, and 10% of all physical album sales, and both its volume and relative share are growing.

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    also, keep this in mind: the music industry does about $6 billion in sales per year. The gaming industry does about $44 billion per year. if Pinball could carve, say, a 2 percent niche out of that industry, that'd make pinball a billion dollar industry. it doesn't have to dominate or be anywhere near the most popular form of gaming in order to thrive.

    #217 2 years ago

    Not a chance. VR pinball will not replace actual pinball any more than The Pinball Arcade did.

    #225 2 years ago
    Quoted from jrpinball:

    That's really an invidious comparison. A real pinball machine is a coin operated amusement device. A VR pinball "machine" would also be a coin operated amusement device.
    When you are fishing, golfing, playing tennis, auto racing or playing ping pong on a video screen, obviously it's intent is not to replace the actual activity, but to simulate it in a coin operated amusement device.

    nah, it's still a simulation of a real, physical thing.

    #229 2 years ago
    Quoted from jrpinball:

    Yes, but something that is just a coin operated amusement in the first place. You see my point?

    No. Virtual pinball doesn't replace actual physical pinball any more than WCS replaces actually playing soccer.

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