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Will 'The Matrix' (pin) ever become a reality?

By KornFreak28

6 years ago


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    #51 5 years ago

    Did you not know about that one? Pinnivating crushed it. If I recall correctly there are maybe 5 out there and the value is $25k+.

    #52 5 years ago
    Quoted from northvibe:

    They also said they were making kill bill. I don’t think they were able to get licensing. There were only 3? Matrix games made, one for sure is in the US....

    They are debuting Kill Bill in 3 weeks at Golden State Pinball show.

    #53 5 years ago
    Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

    They are debuting Kill Bill in 3 weeks at Golden State Pinball show.

    No not really...It looks amazing though Such a shame only a handful were made

    #54 5 years ago
    Quoted from Rensh:

    Left is inventor, middle is software developer and currently doing Kill Bill, right is miss Netherlands 2012

    Thanks for the post.
    Does the game reside a Freddy's ?

    Incredible collection, I hope to return one day.

    Back on track
    Yes Matrix pin could be awesome !

    #55 5 years ago
    Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

    They are debuting Kill Bill in 3 weeks at Golden State Pinball show.

    Seriously? That would be awesome! It’s been years!

    #56 5 years ago
    Quoted from KornFreak28:

    No not really...It looks amazing though Such a shame only a handful were made

    At least a dozen were made and at least two wound up here in the states. It was a fun game but still was at the mercy of the JM mechanical issues (notably the glove mech.) Maybe someone else noted it but it was based strictly on the first movie and not the next two in the trilogy which was probably a good decision as well.

    #57 5 years ago

    I'm a big fan of this pin, I would have bought the kit, if they had made it. Jack probably wouldn't touch this title but AP might.

    #58 5 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    I'm a big fan of this pin, I would have bought the kit, if they had made it. Jack probably wouldn't touch this title but AP might.

    What makes you think Jack wouldn’t touch this title?

    #59 5 years ago
    Quoted from KornFreak28:

    What makes you think Jack wouldn’t touch this title?

    Jack is only interested in doing uber family friendly themes. Matrix does not fit the bill with all the guns, fighting, killing. No way.

    #60 5 years ago
    Quoted from JMcDonald:

    Jack is only interested in doing uber family friendly themes. Matrix does not fit the bill with all the guns, fighting, killing. No way.

    Bummer...To all Matrix lovers, I say we keep this thread going with healthy discussion and cool ideas to possibly get their attention

    How cool it would be if the game would allow you to get out of a mode (sorta like CIU in Metallica) by choosing the blue pill or let you finish the mode by choosing the red pill?

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    #61 5 years ago
    Quoted from RA77:

    Thanks for the post.
    Does the game reside a Freddy's ?
    Incredible collection, I hope to return one day.
    Back on track
    Yes Matrix pin could be awesome !
    » YouTube video

    Dont know if one is there. I think approx 10 were Made. I know one is at NFV HQ, 1 at DPM, 1 with a collector I know, 1 with the software developer. The rest I don’t know but I think like 5 are in the US. And yes, the experience of playing it is immersive.

    And wanna see a red and blue pill mode in action?

    #62 5 years ago
    Quoted from KornFreak28:

    Wow!!! Nice! Is there any chance you guys pick this project up again?

    I am not one of the guys but chances pinnovating picks this up again is slim to zero. It’s a finished project for them.

    And licensing is an issue of course. Making 1 or a couple for your own is something totally different as producing on large scale and selling.

    #63 5 years ago

    Nice to read this tread.

    The Proto Matrix is playable at the Dutch Pinball Museum in Rotterdam.

    There is a Pinside Topic on the Matrix Pin.

    Seems like ages ago. 2011-2012-2013 that zaza Dennis and me and a lot of other guys did this project.

    Before TM dennis from Pinnovating did Demoltion Man on Steroids ( also playable at the museum) and is now working on Kill Bill with steigerpijp and almost done.
    All 3 pinnovating Machine’s will be at the UK pinfest on 25&26 August.

    Not bad for some kids in the basement, right (-;

    #64 5 years ago

    "You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."

    I'd choose ..the red pill.

    #65 5 years ago
    Quoted from Rensh:

    I am not one of the guys but chances pinnovating picks this up again is slim to zero. It’s a finished project for them.
    And licensing is an issue of course. Making 1 or a couple for your own is something totally different as producing on large scale and selling.

    Nice video! They they a great job! Sadly, it looks like there is no hope for a possible ‘Matrix’ pin anytime soon

    #66 5 years ago
    Quoted from Peer:

    Nice to read this tread.
    The Proto Matrix is playable at the Dutch Pinball Museum in Rotterdam.
    There is a Pinside Topic on the Matrix Pin.
    Seems like ages ago. 2011-2012-2013 that zaza Dennis and me and a lot of other guys did this project.
    Before TM dennis from Pinnovating did Demoltion Man on Steroids ( also playable at the museum) and is now working on Kill Bill with steigerpijp and almost done.
    All 3 pinnovating Machine’s will be at the UK pinfest on 25&26 August.
    Not bad for some kids in the basement, right (-;

    Wow! I didn’t know Zaza was involved in this project. He’s one of the good guys

    #67 5 years ago
    Quoted from JMcDonald:

    Jack is only interested in doing uber family friendly themes. Matrix does not fit the bill with all the guns, fighting, killing. No way.

    You're right. There was no killing in WOZ or Hobbit and sure was no fighting in the Hobbit. Damn sure is not any guns, killings, or fighting in POTC.

    #68 5 years ago
    Quoted from PinballManiac40:

    You're right. There was no killing in WOZ or Hobbit and sure was no fighting in the Hobbit. Damn sure is not any guns, killings, or fighting in POTC.

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    #69 5 years ago
    Quoted from PinballManiac40:

    You're right. There was no killing in WOZ or Hobbit and sure was no fighting in the Hobbit. Damn sure is not any guns, killings, or fighting in POTC.

    #70 5 years ago
    Quoted from Rensh:

    Left is inventor, middle is software developer and currently doing Kill Bill, right is miss Netherlands 2012

    Googled Miss Netherlands 2012, forgot all about the Matrix pinball machine.

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    #71 5 years ago
    Quoted from KornFreak28:

    didn’t know Zaza was involved

    Yes, I was even allowed to put my name subtle on the cabinet sidepanel, so I took the background with the large katakana 'ZA' character and stretched it to 20 inch to create the biggest signature on the sidepanel in pinball history

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    (katakana is one of the charactersets used in the digital rain)

    #72 5 years ago
    Quoted from zaza:

    Yes, I was even allowed to put my name subtle on the cabinet sidepanel, so I took the background with the large katakana 'ZA' character and stretched it to 20 inch to create the biggest signature on the sidepanel in pinball history

    (katakana is one of the charactersets used in the digital rain)

    So cool Zaza! Congrats on building an awesome pin

    #73 5 years ago

    Thanks KornFreak28, it was a fun project and very cool to be part of the team that build the matrix.

    Note, I was mainly responsible for the decals+translite and partly technical support. Game design and software are Gerard and Dennis.

    #74 5 years ago

    How about the phone starts ringing when you start a game and keeps ringing until you plunge? How cool would that be?

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    #75 5 years ago

    Dejavu with the black cat..

    #76 5 years ago

    Such a good backglass!!!! I waited 2 yrs for a upgrade kit. I was sad it never came

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    #77 5 years ago

    Since all the Pirates of the Caribbean movies are PG-13, you could say JJP is inferring family games will be made from rated G to PG-13 movies. Also, I would think cursing and certain amount of detailed violence will not make it into JJP games.

    #78 5 years ago

    Beetlejuice is a PG movie.

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    #79 5 years ago

    I would love Jersey Jack to do this theme. Really don't know why Jaws is thrown around more than this title would be

    #81 5 years ago
    Quoted from Butch2099:

    I would love Jersey Jack to do this theme. Really don't know why Jaws is thrown around more than this title would be

    We asked jack about this a few years ago and he seemed intrigued, but I am not expecting anything. It's a dream theme for me.

    #82 5 years ago
    Quoted from Lermods:

    We asked jack about this a few years ago and he seemed intrigued, but I am not expecting anything. It's a dream theme for me.

    Why is he so opposed to the idea tho? This would make killer money for them! Seems to me that pinball and the Matrix go hand in hand

    #83 5 years ago
    Quoted from KornFreak28:

    Why is he so opposed to the idea tho? This would make killer money for them! Seems to me that pinball and the Matrix go hand in hand

    Jack has always maintained since starting JJP that he wants to make family friendly themed pins. I think Hobbit was the extent of violence he could tolerate. Matrix is pretty high on the violence scale including lots of guns and language.

    Original Matrix re-theme of JM actually had about 12 made. 2 of those made it to buyers in the U.S if I remember correctly. 1 of those 2 went through Pinball Refinery in Michigan at one point before heading out West. The game was only ever based on the first movie and not the full trilogy. Was really fun but with modern innovation and JJP's attention to high-end details this would be an incredible game!

    #84 5 years ago
    Quoted from JMcDonald:

    Jack has always maintained since starting JJP that he wants to make family friendly themed pins. I think Hobbit was the extent of violence he could tolerate. Matrix is pretty high on the violence scale including lots of guns and language.
    Original Matrix re-theme of JM actually had about 12 made. 2 of those made it to buyers in the U.S if I remember correctly. 1 of those 2 went through Pinball Refinery in Michigan at one point before heading out West. The game was only ever based on the first movie and not the full trilogy. Was really fun but with modern innovation and JJP's attention to high-end details this would be an incredible game!

    Although I don’t think it’s a smart business strategy, I Totally respect his way of thinking

    #85 5 years ago

    I truly believe JJP would make the very best Matrix machine possible. I think Stern would come up with a crappy looking machine with poor game play ideas and toys (for some reason star wars comes to mind)

    #86 5 years ago

    Well the matrix is being rebooted so it would be a good time to snag the license for original or reboot... although not sure how I feel about the reboot

    #87 5 years ago
    Quoted from northvibe:

    Well the matrix is being rebooted so it would be a good time to snag the license for original or reboot... although not sure how I feel about the reboot

    Oh really? Do you happen to know when? That’s great news!

    #88 5 years ago
    Quoted from KornFreak28:

    Oh really? Do you happen to know when? That’s great news!

    Mmm maybe not a reboot but another matrix story line. Anyway they are working on the script so this could be a few years out :/ if it is a continuation or story in the matrix universe I’m good, but a reboot is ugh.

    #89 5 years ago

    How cool would it be to have to make a skill shot or certain shots to find the Oracle so she can tell you what mode to do next?

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    #90 5 years ago
    Quoted from Lermods:

    I don't think stern would give it the proper treatment.

    I agree 100% with this statement

    #91 5 years ago

    Say what you want about the 2nd and 3rd film but the Matrix is an incredibly rich and deep sci-fi narrative that would translate to an AMAZING pin with todays tech. I tend to agree that JJP would do the best job with it - they are true masters of theme integration but keep hitting foul balls based on theme choice.

    The Matrix also should be easily attainable as a license and has the brand awareness to make it a slam dunk. I think it is time to start taking a serious look at 90s franchices like Matrix for themes.

    #92 5 years ago
    Quoted from Dkjimbo:

    Say what you want about the 2nd and 3rd film but the Matrix is an incredibly rich and deep sci-fi narrative that would translate to an AMAZING pin with todays tech. I tend to agree that JJP would do the best job with it - they are true masters of theme integration but keep hitting foul balls based on theme choice.
    The Matrix also should be easily attainable as a license and has the brand awareness to make it a slam dunk. I think it is time to start taking a serious look at 90s franchices like Matrix for themes.

    I agree. If JJP would start considering themes like The Matrix instead of just “Family pins” they would totally make a killing!

    #93 5 years ago

    Just because the movies are rated-R doesn't mean you have to have all the blood and language in a pin. I think there is plenty of narrative, action, adventure to do a pin justice with out making the pin rated-R. I don't mind it myself, but if that is JJP's goal, then I don't see why it can't be done.

    #94 5 years ago
    Quoted from Lamprey:

    Just because the movies are rated-R doesn't mean you have to have all the blood and language in a pin. I think there is plenty of narrative, action, adventure to do a pin justice with out making the pin rated-R. I don't mind it myself, but if that is JJP's goal, then I don't see why it can't be done.

    Or have an “adult language” setting that can be turned on and off

    #95 5 years ago
    Quoted from KornFreak28:

    Or have an “adult language” setting that can be turn on and off

    Precisely! Ghostbusters has an adult language setting and that was a PG movie. I'm sure there a lot of pins that have a similar setting.

    #96 5 years ago

    Imagine the iconic Matrix phone ringing until you plunge the ball! And then....”I’m in”

    #97 5 years ago
    Quoted from Lamprey:

    Precisely! Ghostbusters has an adult language setting and that was a PG movie. I'm sure there a lot of pins that have a similar setting.

    I don't get it. Stern made an adult setting for Ghostbusters,.... a PG movie and yet, Deadpool is an adult rated movie and they make the game PG. What the ass?!!!!

    QSS

    #98 5 years ago

    Someone show this thread to Jack!

    #99 5 years ago

    Time for Pinside to will this game into existence!

    #100 5 years ago
    Quoted from Concretehardt:

    Time for Pinside to will this game into existence!

    Exactly!!! We need to make noise! Keep bringing fresh ideas! Jack will hear about us sooner or later

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