I do think the two light-rails? paired with the other lights look spectacular in GnR and they fit the concert theme. I'm not convinced this kind of super mega lightshow fits every type/theme of pin though. Let's say TAF had this kind of insane lights... nah would have killed the spooky theme completely (or made it into a psycho-disco house).

I would prefer if not all pins from now on had this as sometimes less is more.

I don't like the JJP light shows, and I think Stern has made the right decision dialing it back a bit. (Of course, my Star Trek is but a mere Pro.)

I'm sure that you'll disagree with me, and that's OK -- I just don't think Stern feels that full RGB is a foregone conclusion, and I agree with them.

I have to say that I have a Wonka and the RBG light show is spectacular. When I say this, it doesn’t mean I don’t like Stern pins, but the look of JJP pins (including the RGB lighting) puts Stern pins to shame. However, JJP pins are generally more expensive than Stern pins. I also think the Wonka theme is perfect for RGB lighting. With all that being said, with Stern, I feel like it always comes down to $$. I’m sure RGB is more expensive and that, in itself, is probably enough of a reason for Stern to not include them.

I love the JJP lightshows and attention to detail they spend on it.

I've heard Stern keeps to white leds as they're brighter.. making everything rgb makes the game more dark (especially if all leds are included in lightshows and dim at the same time) or requires more physical leds to generate the same amount of lumen..

Definitely true. MBR has rgb and it is a pretty dark game. Wonka too can be on the dark side, but unlike MBR, jjp uses white spotlights.

I owned both Star Trek LE and GOT LE and they both dazzled.

I'm guessing it is a BOM issue, and what the designer sees as a priority. I would imagine there will be future games that use them, at a cost of leaving something else out.

I think in Sterns case having the Pro/Premium/LE model hurts the desire to go full RGB because they are not likely to ever put full RGB in a Pro and therefore not likely to code game specific elements around it. Sure you get some nice light sweeps and cool attract modes but compare to a game like Rick and Morty where they have full dimensions geared around the GI lighting such as the Twilight Zone dimension and the night vision mode (my personal favorite).

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The show on my Trek premium was outstanding.

RGB is clearly the "wave of the future" and hope more pin makers embrace it.

I’ve owned GOT, and I still own a Star Trek. The lights are part of the reason I no longer own GOT.

I bought GOT Pro right when it came out. Loved the theme, and played the first copy and I enjoyed the game. So of course I ordered one. The lights in that game were blinding. I had to turn on the lights in the gameroom to play it. During multiball when I’d earn an extra ball the lights would go from blinding to off, back to blinding. I just couldn’t see the ball with anything to do with Winter on the game. I got what they were doing, they wanted it to feel like I was in a blinding blizzard. But I was playing pinball and I couldn’t see the ball. Then the code update can and they gave me a setting to “lessen” the impact of the light show. It was useless. So a big part of my playing strategy was to avoid those shots. The goal of “Winter has come” was to trap one ball, and just dump the rest to stop the mode. It was the beginning of the end, but of course so was having to get a new populated playfield out of Stern, because clearcoat is hard to get right after decades of experience.

All that to say cool lights are awesome, but there is a limit to when it really detracts from the game.

RGB are cool but are horrible with clear inserts like they used in GOT.

Have to have frosted inserts as well.

On a side note, I added some spot lights to my GOT, connected to the coin door light, that was always on, so that when the crazy effects were going on there was some light still on the playfield and you didn't get blinded by the strobe effect. It worked really well.

Star Wars does have some RGB lights and a pretty damn good light show as well. You might want to revisit the game...

Will add .25 cents to BOM ... so NO!

who cares. Yeah they can make a great game just a little bit better but they can't save a bad game. I would rather they were all RGB in both the PF and GI but its bottom of the list on importance and I'll take another spinner over the lightshow all day every day.