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Will prices on pinballs keep going up? Or…down? Worthless?

By greeneye

5 months ago


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    “Will prices on pinballs keep going up? Or…down? Worthless?”

    • To the moon 55 votes
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    • To hell 9 votes
      10%
    • Another Beanie Babies fiasco 25 votes
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    #1 5 months ago

    Hey guys will prices keep going up or are they doomed to become coffee tables?

    Please let me know I’m on the fence about a POTC CE purchase or possibly a 40th anniversary Elvira.

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    #2 5 months ago

    FFS
    2 in a day

    Ah Maybe that's the point

    #3 5 months ago

    Feverish Fund Spending?

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    #6 5 months ago

    I added a poll guys. Come on I have my finger on the mouse button to buy one possibly both

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    #7 5 months ago

    Paging CrazyLevi.....cleanup in aisle 6

    #8 5 months ago

    Unless the economy goes into a tailspin, I don’t think there is a ceiling anymore.

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    #9 5 months ago
    Quoted from greeneye:

    I added a poll guys. Come on I have my finger on the mouse button to buy one possibly both

    Buy both , then show them off in the What Did you bring home thread.

    Good luck with The Purchase!

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    #10 5 months ago
    Quoted from chad:

    Buy both , then show them off in the What Did you bring home thread.
    Good luck with The Purchase!

    Downvoted for sarcasm

    #11 5 months ago

    Still paging CrazyLevi

    #12 5 months ago
    Quoted from greeneye:

    Downvoted for sarcasm

    Oh god. You started a pricing thread and then downvoted someone for sarcasm and admitted it? This is going to enter fart in church territory.

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    #14 5 months ago

    Oooo a pricing thread. I’m excited to see how this goes!

    #15 5 months ago

    Current astronomical pricing for Pirates is unsustainable and will continue a downward trajectory in value, becoming more pronounced as new movies featuring an Actor other than Depp are released.
    It will quickly be "Yesterdays news" much like many of the older Titles todays younger Buyer has no vested or sentimental interest in.
    There will remain the well heeled older Buyer who already has one or more exceptional versions already in their collection. It will have less staying power then Fireball, which continues to enjoy high collectability value. But Fireball desirability has waned dramatically the past 5 years and its decline will accelerate further as time passes.

    Elvira always was and continues to be a high-niche genre. Outside of Comics, nerdy film fans and Pinball she is quickly fading into obscurity, especially beside horror classics like Dracula and Frankenstein.
    Doubtful very many Teens even know who she is, even fewer who will one day be willing to shell out an astronomical sum for a machine with then outdated electronics and sketchy parts availability.
    Plue the various outrage social movements continuation paints a bleak picture for Boomers displaying overt sexuality and cleavage.
    How popular are Jayne Mansfield and May West right now? Thats where Elviras future collectibility is going.

    #16 5 months ago
    Quoted from phil-lee:

    Current astronomical pricing for Pirates is unsustainable and will continue a downward trajectory in value, becoming more pronounced as new movies featuring an Actor other than Depp are released.
    It will quickly be "Yesterdays news" much like many of the older Titles todays younger Buyer has no vested or sentimental interest in.
    There will remain the well heeled older Buyer who already has one or more exceptional versions already in their collection. It will have less staying power then Fireball, which continues to enjoy high collectability value. But Fireball desirability has waned dramatically the past 5 years and its decline will accelerate further as time passes.
    Elvira always was and continues to be a high-niche genre. Outside of Comics, nerdy film fans and Pinball she is quickly fading into obscurity, especially beside horror classics like Dracula and Frankenstein.
    Doubtful very many Teens even know who she is, even fewer who will one day be willing to shell out an astronomical sum for a machine with then outdated electronics and sketchy parts availability.
    Plue the various outrage social movements continuation paints a bleak picture for Boomers displaying overt sexuality and cleavage.
    How popular are Jayne Mansfield and May West right now? Thats where Elviras future collectibility is going.

    I think the main pulling power of Elvira and the latest pin are her 2 previous pins.

    #17 5 months ago
    Quoted from phil-lee:

    the various outrage social movements continuation paints a bleak picture for Boomers displaying overt sexuality and cleavage.

    Man, what could this mean for Godzilla (1954)?!?!

    #18 5 months ago

    If JJP make another run of pirates, which is not completely unlikely, then the 2nd hand price will surely drop.

    #19 5 months ago
    Quoted from switch3:

    If JJP make another run of pirates, which is not completely unlikely, then the 2nd hand price will surely drop.

    You think?

    #21 5 months ago
    Quoted from greeneye:

    Hey guys will prices keep going up or are they doomed to become coffee tables?
    Please let me know I’m on the fence about a POTC CE purchase or possibly a 40th anniversary Elvira.

    Nobody knows, because no one here can predict the future.

    #22 5 months ago
    Quoted from Vino:

    Man, what could this mean for Godzilla (1954)?!?!

    You have to realize my response was tongue in cheek. Just curious with all of the price prediction threads how people would respond to an in-depth diatribe of opinion based on nothing substantial.
    Is this what the people want?
    I could just as easily wrote 1000 words on why both of these machines will increase 75% in value the next 10 years.
    All the conjecture means nothing. Its fun to discuss up to a certain point.
    We may have reached that point.

    #23 5 months ago

    One thing to consider... when the pinball world was on the brink of extinction everyone prayed for an upturn in popularity. Here we are, all the old stock has been absorbed and the current producers are at capacity. The market is baring what it can withstand. These prices are not going anywhere unless pinball becomes uncool which is what we all fought against... we reap what we sow.

    #24 5 months ago

    I'm listing my GBLE for 30k with topper. PM me!

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    #25 5 months ago

    All new posters ..... That's any after 2019.... Don't know forums n serchin' all they know is bang Karen's, chase LEs like chicken head, pin stadiummmz, charge they phone eat hot chip and whine

    #26 5 months ago
    Quoted from herbertbsharp:

    All new posters ..... That's any after 2019.... Don't know forums n serchin' all they know is bang Karen's, chase LEs like chicken head, pin stadiummmz, charge they phone eat hot chip and whine

    Damn, I didn't even come close to making the cutoff date

    #27 5 months ago

    Buy whats fun to play for you, NOT what costs the most. Pricey games do not reflect play fun factor.

    #28 5 months ago

    I’m glad someone finally brought this up

    #29 5 months ago

    Pinball prices will drop off just as soon as the boomer debt-addicts credit lines dry up or they die off.

    #30 5 months ago
    Quoted from ralphs007:

    Nobody knows, because no one here can predict the future.

    Actually everyone here can predict the future.

    #31 5 months ago

    Trying to follow the pinball economy, demand seems to be at all time high right now. Once supply chain issues are resolved and manufacturers can keep up with demand on the new machines, I think it will have a trickle down effect on vintage machines.

    Also, it almost feels like people are buying pins just to fill a void in their basement collection or wherever their collection may be located.

    #32 5 months ago

    What is your name?

    What is your quest?

    What is the current price of a Tron pro with added shaker, glowing ramps, and blue powder?

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    #33 5 months ago
    Quoted from Coindork:

    Actually everyone here can predict the future.

    Nice gotcha.

    #34 5 months ago
    Quoted from herbertbsharp:

    All new posters ..... That's any after 2019.... Don't know forums n serchin' all they know is bang Karen's, chase LEs like chicken head, pin stadiummmz, charge they phone eat hot chip and whine

    Those are some pretty dope rap lyrics. At least that’s what I’m guessing because I can’t make heads or tails of these words.

    #35 5 months ago
    Quoted from herbertbsharp:

    All new posters ..... That's any after 2019.... Don't know forums n serchin' all they know is bang Karen's, chase LEs like chicken head, pin stadiummmz, charge they phone eat hot chip and whine

    This is a late entry for “post of the year (POTY)’” award.

    #36 5 months ago
    Quoted from greeneye:

    I added a poll guys. Come on I have my finger on the mouse button to buy one possibly both

    If you have to think about it, neither. Both are stupid overpriced bs.

    #37 5 months ago

    We are in an era of spending, full of people whom have mostly NEVER actually experienced tough times, and not afraid to spend what they have and even go in to debt because “I want it, and deserve it” a generation that was mostly given “Prizes” for behaving as they are supposed to. Ice cream because they are “sad” and gifts to say “I love you” a generation of material items. The size of diamond says how much you love your wife right? They will spend “whatever” it doesn’t matter because I want it.

    We live in a time where a brand such as “Supreme” even exists…..Rolex’s are sold out with a 5 year wait, $30,000 Polaris Rangers, and $90,000 Ford Broncos, $120,000 Corvettes all being sold at 20% over retail because “I want one now”…..Lambos and Ferraris driving past…..as if a $7000 pinball is even a thing. Reality is people can complain about delays or high prices on any of these items, yet it just keeps going up and will until people stop paying the prices… since many games are sold out into 2022-2023 it won’t stop anytime soon. If you want a sold out game you will have to do 1 of 3 things
    1. Wait patiently
    2. Don’t buy it
    3. spend enough to get someone to let it go.

    Or just complain on the forums “it’s not fair” and go buy yourself some ice cream

    It’s a crazy world and as long as stupid money exists, Inflation will continue, but the reckless spending will have to end at some point, and that may not be until inflation takes excess money down to normal levels.

    #38 5 months ago
    Quoted from ovfdfireman:

    We are in an era of spending, full of people whom have mostly NEVER actually experienced tough times, and not afraid to spend what they have and even go in to debt because “I want it, and deserve it” a generation that was mostly given “Prizes” for behaving as they are supposed to. Ice cream because they are “sad” and gifts to say “I love you” a generation of material items. The size of diamond says how much you love your wife right? They will spend “whatever” it doesn’t matter because I want it.
    We live in a time where a brand such as “Supreme” even exists…..Rolex’s are sold out with a 5 year wait, $30,000 Polaris Rangers, and $90,000 Ford Broncos, $120,000 Corvettes all being sold at 20% over retail because “I want one now”…..Lambos and Ferraris driving past…..as if a $7000 pinball is even a thing. Reality is people can complain about delays or high prices on any of these items, yet it just keeps going up and will until people stop paying the prices… since many games are sold out into 2022-2023 it won’t stop anytime soon. If you want a sold out game you will have to do 1 of 3 things
    1. Wait patiently
    2. Don’t buy it
    3. spend enough to get someone to let it go.
    Or just complain on the forums “it’s not fair” and go buy yourself some ice cream
    It’s a crazy world and as long as stupid money exists, Inflation will continue, but the reckless spending will have to end at some point, and that may not be until inflation takes excess money down to normal levels.

    We also live in a time where a bar owner decides to route his own location and says holy f*## this is exceeding expectations because I can count on zero fingers competitors doing the same…

    As a business owner and from a capitalist perspective…. Labor has the bargaining power for the first time in decades and pin owners have the resale power for pins.

    Crazy how it works…

    #39 5 months ago
    Quoted from ovfdfireman:

    We are in an era of spending, full of people whom have mostly NEVER actually experienced tough times, and not afraid to spend what they have and even go in to debt because “I want it, and deserve it” a generation that was mostly given “Prizes” for behaving as they are supposed to. Ice cream because they are “sad” and gifts to say “I love you” a generation of material items. The size of diamond says how much you love your wife right? They will spend “whatever” it doesn’t matter because I want it.
    We live in a time where a brand such as “Supreme” even exists…..Rolex’s are sold out with a 5 year wait, $30,000 Polaris Rangers, and $90,000 Ford Broncos, $120,000 Corvettes all being sold at 20% over retail because “I want one now”…..Lambos and Ferraris driving past…..as if a $7000 pinball is even a thing. Reality is people can complain about delays or high prices on any of these items, yet it just keeps going up and will until people stop paying the prices… since many games are sold out into 2022-2023 it won’t stop anytime soon. If you want a sold out game you will have to do 1 of 3 things
    1. Wait patiently
    2. Don’t buy it
    3. spend enough to get someone to let it go.
    Or just complain on the forums “it’s not fair” and go buy yourself some ice cream
    It’s a crazy world and as long as stupid money exists, Inflation will continue, but the reckless spending will have to end at some point, and that may not be until inflation takes excess money down to normal levels.

    mmmmmm, ice cream. nothing better than ice cream when it's below freezing outside. you don't have to worry about it dripping down your hands.

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    #40 5 months ago

    A pinball is worth what someone will pay… a pinball is worth what someone will play…

    #41 5 months ago
    Quoted from greeneye:

    A pinball is worth what someone will pay… a pinball is worth what someone will play…

    Everything is worth what someone’s willing to pay.

    #42 5 months ago

    Man I think the OP is trying to compete with some of Pinside's finest on the downvotes.

    #43 5 months ago

    You think Boomers spend a lot of money?
    You haven't seen anything yet.
    Remember, the flower power generation of the late 60's and early 70's grew up to be the most greedy, spendy, power hungry generation in recent history (the 90's). What the Milennials say now has zero basis on what they will actually do 20 years from now when they are at their peak earning power.
    Result: no ceiling on pinball machine prices.
    Pinball is generationally cool, that's already been proven for at least 3 generations. Strap in people, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

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    #44 5 months ago
    Quoted from pinballlife:

    You think Boomers spend a lot of money?
    You haven't seen anything yet.
    Remember, the flower power generation of the late 60's and early 70's grew up to be the most greedy, spendy, power hungry generation in recent history (the 90's). What the Milennials say now has zero basis on what they will actually do 20 years from now when they are at their peak earning power.
    Result: no ceiling on pinball machine prices.
    Pinball is generationally cool, that's already been proven for at least 3 generations. Strap in people, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

    This reminds me of someone who bought virtual land with crypto I assume it was that earth 2.0 and it was a little over $2 million dollars. I don’t think it was someone saving up. The younger generation has silly money. That could buy you many titles. For many of them a NIB stern is like a candy bar.

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