Do you think pinfest will be canceled and if it’s not do you still plan on attending...
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Quoted from hool10:Stahp. Moooods.
I think your saying Mods, shut down this thread!!
Unless the warmer spring weather slows the spread down significantly, I can't imagine Pinfest *not* getting cancelled. At the rate the virus is spreading things will probably be significantly worse in May.
I sure hope nothing gets canceled. But, im personally taking a break from shows for awhile till this all blows off.
Quoted from mystman12:Unless the warmer spring weather slows the spread down significantly
Tom Hanks and his wife got it in Australia which I believe is in their summer season right now. So I'm not sure the warmer weather will make a difference.
Unfortunately, the way its going, it would be highly unlikely for the show to happen as planned. It appears the government is canceling life at the moment.
I sure hope it doesn't get canceled, I took off two weeks for it this year. One week to get ready and one to recover.
I hate to say it, but I expect that it will be cancelled. We are several months away from a vaccine and as all of the experts state: "it will get much worse before it gets better." I love pinfest, but it just doesn't seem like a risk worth taking and no one wants to be responsible for an event where shit hits the fan and the damn virus is spread throughout the show.
If it doesn't cancel im sure people will be pouring hand sanitizer on their hands all day. I wonder if hand sanitizer would affect the side art on a pinball machine?
if this is still an issue by May we'll have bigger things to think about than Pinfest. Right now i'm taking a step back from pinball activities other than playing at home... b/c lets face it there are some dirty folks that show up to events
Quoted from superdup:I wonder if hand sanitizer would affect the side art on a pinball machine?
Most hand sanitizers are 60% or more alcohol so I would suspect yes over time.
Work in healthcare, all indications are this is no different than any other flu bug.
80,000 people died of the flu last year, Corona has killed under 50 in the United States to date. The media is beating this horse for dear life.
Quoted from gdonovan:Work in healthcare, all indications are this is no different than any other flu bug.
80,000 people died of the flu last year, Corona has killed under 50 in the United States to date. The media is beating this horse for dear life.
Give it up man it’s over.
This is a public health crisis. Making the media your punching bag on this is beyond old. Talk about "beating this horse"....The "this is the media's fault and also snowflakes!!!" thing was cute last week, and annoying on Monday. Today, it's simply obnoxious and irresponsible.
Quoted from gdonovan:Work in healthcare, all indications are this is no different than any other flu bug.
80,000 people died of the flu last year, Corona has killed under 50 in the United States to date. The media is beating this horse for dear life.
Oh wow, an expert!?
Why waste your time on pinside when you could be advising the doctors and government in Italy?
"Work in healthcare"? Let us know where so we can avoid it.
This is crazy talk. Nobody is saying that so far Corona has killed more than the flu. It's what's going to happen, not what has. Changes being enacted in order to PREVENT (key word prevent) this virus from killing people might not be the worst idea.
Quoted from gdonovan:Work in healthcare, all indications are this is no different than any other flu bug.
80,000 people died of the flu last year, Corona has killed under 50 in the United States to date. The media is beating this horse for dear life.
Agreed this isn't any other flu bug, death rates are 2+% while flu is .01% math doesn't lie. Numbers straight from WHO and Fauci
Feel free to panic if you like, I have to deal with the logistics end of various outbreaks. Normal precautions if followed will be fine.
People insinuate this isn't the normal flu and you automatically escalate that to a panic. This isn't the normal flu bug. People should not panic. It seems like you believe that because some people are overreacting, everyone is over reacting. Also, I'm not sure what your role is in the health care industry, but I'm extremely skeptical that It's a clinical position.
Quoted from gdonovan:Feel free to panic if you like, I have to deal with the logistics end of various outbreaks. Normal precautions if followed will be fine.
Quoted from gdonovan:Work in healthcare, all indications are this is no different than any other flu bug.
80,000 people died of the flu last year, Corona has killed under 50 in the United States to date. The media is beating this horse for dear life.
Work how, mopping the floor? There are countless statements by reputable experts and countless, detailed and careful articles by reputable people that patiently explain all the differences. So you’re either willfully being ignorant or selling something.
Frankly, I don’t see any panic anywhere. Of course I don’t watch or rely on television news or clickbait sites either. I see educated professionals being smart and cautious. And then I see people like you. That really aren’t helping.
Thanks to having the second largest legislature in the nation, Pennsylvania politicians will still be scratching their asses with both hands attempting to figure out what to do about the beer virus by the time Pinfest rolls around. May 1st is 50 days away...a lot is going to happen between now and then. This discussion is premature.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Work how, mopping the floor? There are countless statements by reputable experts and countless, detailed and careful articles by reputable people that patiently explain all the differences. So you’re either willfully being ignorant or selling something.
Frankly, I don’t see any panic anywhere. Of course I don’t watch or rely on television news or clickbait sites either. I see educated professionals being smart and cautious. And then I see people like you. That really aren’t helping.
You don't see "Panic" anywhere? Do you live under a rock? There are literally "individuals" walking around with trash bags on their heads, and gas masks (with out filters). Try having a kid at home projectile vomiting and just wanting to pick up a bottle of Clorox wipes and Pedialyte frozen pops. I went to ten stores yesterday, the hoarding, " end of the world " "individuals" cleared everything out. If I had run into one, there was a 99% chance I would have speed tracked the end of their world. Its getting out of control, and the Media is to blame. I also had the privilege of listening to "individuals " in my doctor's waiting room yesterday talking about not buying anything made in China because you will "catch the virus ", as the conversation progressed all I wanted to do was smash my head into the wall next to me. (P.S. My doctor said, "Wash your hands, you'll be fine".)
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:Frankly, I don’t see any panic anywhere.
LOL.
Thats why the news is full of stories of people rushing out to buy bottled water, lysol and toilet paper. One would think the apocalypse is on hand. People are very much panicking. Wander down to the local store and see how much Lysol is in stock and that the expected date of release is.
My wife works at a wholesale club, the place is cleaned out of anything lysol, bottled water or toilet paper. Damnedest thing I have seen.
Quoted from gdonovan:LOL.
Thats why the news is full of stories of people rushing out to buy bottled water, lysol and toilet paper. One would think the apocalypse is on hand. People are very much panicking. Wander down to the local store and see how much Lysol is in stock and that the expected date of release is.
My wife works at a wholesale club, the place is cleaned out of anything lysol, bottled water or toilet paper. Damnedest thing I have seen.
Definitely no Panic anywhere lol
IMG_0499.jpgFYI been party to several meetings and planning sessions with state and local health officials regarding this event so therefor I'd wager I'm better informed than the average person on Pinside watching TV. Without exception there is consensus this is overblown and there is epic amounts of ass covering by officials because the media is flogging this in the public eye and people want "something done." It is a concern of ours of course since the majority of cases that are fatal are people with compromised systems over the age of 60 which is the bulk of the people in our care. And we have taken steps to mitigate this risk at our facility as would be prudent.
We have numerous protocols and propositioned supplies in place for almost any event. We literately have a 4.5" thick book on the shelf next to me where almost anything and everything is gamed out in advance should an emergency arise and we drill with other facilities and agencies several times a year as required by the state and feds. Pandemics, storms, fire, floods, Anthrax, mass shooter drills, nuclear plant going up, you name it.
Take normal flu precautions as you should be doing anyways. Most people get ill as they have poor situational awareness as to what they are touching and where they place their hands next. If creeps me out to no end watching people pushing a shopping cart and then causally touch their face or worse stick a finger in their mouth. Gross but I see people do it all the time. How many ill people touched that cart in the last 24 hours? Since I have been in healthcare the number of illness that take me out of work has dropped to less than one every 2 years.
Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands and watch where you put them is the best advice I can give you. Stay out of excessively crowded areas. You would not catch me flying or on a cruise ship for love or money right now, would not be prudent.
Quoted from Irishbastard:Definitely no Panic anywhere lol[quoted image]
Home Depot 2 days ago, Lysol section cleaned out. Hand sanitizer out of stock till at least June.
Resized_20200309_114224 (resized).jpegQuoted from gdonovan:FYI been party to several meetings and planning sessions with state and local health officials regarding this event so therefor I'd wager I'm better informed than the average person on Pinside watching TV. Without exception there is consensus this is overblown and there is epic amounts of ass covering by officials because the media is flogging this in the public eye and people want "something done." It is a concern of ours of course since the majority of cases that are fatal are people with compromised systems over the age of 60 which is the bulk of the people in our care. And we have taken steps to mitigate this risk at our facility as would be prudent.
We have numerous protocols and propositioned supplies in place for almost any event. We literately have a 4.5" thick book on the shelf next to me where almost anything and everything is gamed out in advance should an emergency arise and we drill with other facilities and agencies several times a year as required by the state and feds. Pandemics, storms, fire, floods, Anthrax, mass shooter drills, nuclear plant going up, you name it.
Take normal flu precautions as you should be doing anyways. Most people get ill as they have poor situational awareness as to what they are touching and where they place their hands next. If creeps me out to no end watching people pushing a shopping cart and then causally touch their face or worse stick a finger in their mouth. Gross but I see people do it all the time. How many ill people touched that cart in the last 24 hours? Since I have been in healthcare the number of illness that take me out of work has dropped to less than one every 2 years.
Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands and watch where you put them is the best advice I can give you. Stay out of excessively crowded areas. You would not catch me flying or on a cruise ship for love or money right now, would not be prudent.
You compare it to the flu which is extremely inaccurate and frankly irresponsible and you're in healthcare?
Funny. My college professor aunt with over a dozen published books on healthcare and 2 PHD's says people that spread misinformation like you have death on their hands.
If it is just the flu then why are you avoiding travel, planes or anything else at all cost?
I've never been fearful of the flu to where I avoided anything...
Quoted from FYMF:You compare it to the flu which is extremely inaccurate and frankly irresponsible and you're in healthcare?
Funny. My college professor aunt with over a dozen published books on healthcare and 2 PHD's says people that spread misinformation like you have death on their hands.
I'm directly responsible for the lives of 100+ people and have been doing this for well over a decade with full state oversight and regular inspection, your aunt is responsible for how many lives?
Get. Bent. is my reply.
You choose to attack me personally, I'll respond the same way.
Quoted from gdonovan:I'm directly responsible for the lives of 100+ people and have been doing this for well over a decade with full state oversight and regular inspection, your aunt is responsible for how many lives?
Get. Bent. is my reply.
You choose to attack me personally, I'll respond the same way.
-Former president of ASHA. Heard of it?
-Ran the entire European chapter of nurses as a full bird colonel before that.
-Tenured at 2 top universities.
-published over a dozen college health books
-Former president of Diogene medical prior to international acquisition.
Or we could ask my uncle who is the head of pediatric infectious disease association of the entire nation.
But yes. You're more qualified. Gtfo of here
EDIT: my aunts team discovered the link between HPV and cervical cancer which lead to the direct development of gardasil so to answer your questions she saved a fuck ton more lives then you're casually putting into jeopardy.
Here's a shortened version of the Joe Rogan podcast with infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm.
Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:Stern Pro Circuit Championships cancelled due to Coronavirus.
I would assume postponed.
An event like that can be easily postponed and rescheduled whenever. They hold it at a local bar and likely have very little sunk costs at this point.
For these big shows, it's a completely different animal. I understand they can't make rash decisions, they need to talk with their partners, there's lots of boxes to check. But in the end there's no way any of these shows happen, not for at least a couple months.
Quoted from Irishbastard:Definitely no Panic anywhere lol[quoted image]
I stopped by Aldi and there people are also hoarding the tp and water. I asked the checker and she said she could not believe the amount sold.
Glad we got this finally figured out. Some guy on pinside and a few outliers on the case have determined this is a nothing burger and just media spin. Someone notify the rest of the world because I don't think they watch CNN.
Watching all of the personal attacks and condescension on here anymore over differences in opinion and/or interpretation of information is just sad.
Quoted from Colsond3:Watching all of the personal attacks and condescension on here anymore over differences in opinion and/or interpretation of information is just sad.
Just another day on the internet.
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