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Will JJP survive past 2020?

By adamsebas

4 years ago


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    #239 4 years ago

    IMHO, GnR isn't the best choice because of three primary issues:

    1. From what I've experienced, they are a love or hate band due to Axel's vocal style, much like Layne Staley.

    2. They don't have great visual marketing like other bands (IMDN, Judas, acdc etc.). Think about how much merch these other bands sell to ppl who aren't even fans.

    3. Although many turn out for love shows, I never hear about them or their music ever. Pinside is the only place. I don't listen to a ton of radio, but our local Rock station never plays them. I'm sure Ozzy's bone yard does though.

    #247 4 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Same thing over and over...you don;t need a band to be popular since you are selling it to homeowners.
    Everything you just said there, is like a hyper version of IMDN....I've never met anyone that listens to them in real life & never heard them on the radio; great great game that I believe sold really well? I hear GNR all the time on radio rock/classic rock stations.
    Now I mean...classic GNR...never heard any of the new stuff anywhere.

    But my context included my other reason: GnR does not have the visual marketing that imdn has. Many people identify with Eddie, hell and Devils and love the look of the machine. I see hot little chicks wearing imdn and Judas shirts all the time. I would bet good money that they aren't grooving to Firepower on their way to work.

    #296 4 years ago
    Quoted from Skyemont:

    Didn't IMLE at 9k have major issues? I know this to be true. A friend went thru it.

    Depends if you look at it from a pinball collector's eye or a JJP hugger. I generally dislike Stern's quality and strategy of stripping everything down to save every last nickel, but IMDNLE did not have "major issues." I had to adjust some switches in the sarcophagus mech, one of the captive ball switches and adjust my launcher to make the loop properly. My DILE has had 4 phone replacements and one trap door replacement, both of which I'd consider "major." I've also had to straighten a brutally crooked LED board. The employee was a full cm off the predrills, and the inserts were pretty much dark. Customer service has been TOP NOTCH though.

    I love JJP and hope they keep going, but I'm going to call a spade a spade. They have their issues, just like Stern does. Sometimes they are better, sometimes they are worse. I personally think JJP's theme choices and family-friendly limitations are going to hurt them and possibly kill the business. Many pinheads that can buy games grew up in arcades. Arcades were where skids, dopers and smokers hung out, at least the ones I hung around. That's why skulls and tits sell so well. I like metal. I like demons and devils. I like skulls. I like tits, even though I see these as non-PC these days.

    The best case scenario I can see is that they start putting out unique, original themes like companies did in the 80's and stop with the fear of bad words like "killer." Killer App, Pat's original title for DI, would have increased sales on DI by 10% IMHO. Skip paying for worn-out themes to save your customers some cash. If deeproot, who I believe is working on original themes (smart), and others start cranking out good titles, JJP will be the first to go, and it will be a sad day for pinball.

    #327 4 years ago
    Quoted from smognote:

    I WAS WONDERING THER SAME THING BUT ABOUT STERN

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    #369 4 years ago

    Maybe the slots sound will grow on people like they do to addicted gamblers at the casino. We, as collectors, all have a similar problem...

    #389 4 years ago

    I personally love the sound for DI. When I play, it feels (key word) like it's a day-in-the-life at Quantum City. Then you get some good alternate music in the modes and multiballs. EMP and Quantum Chaos come to mind. I also like that the music speeds up with progression. I find that the music and sounds are not there for the sake of music and sounds. They are purposely the way they are for integration. Theil worked with what he had and did a great job and JJP should be concerned that they no longer have him.

    #437 4 years ago

    Typing skills: 70wpm
    Cars: 2
    Muscle rating on cars: Weak

    I rate pretty low on the Frightner Scale.

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