Is your shift button not working?

Probably not a widebody is my punt based on all the things Jack has said so far but until it is announced or leaked it's anyone's guess.

As long as the layout is good, I could care less about what the dimensions are.
I'm more worried about what Jack does to the pricing tier now that he has a better grasp of what the cost is to produce a machine to the JJP standards...
Please Jack, no whammy!

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Whammy:
"Buh-bye $6500 pre-order!"

Right there with you Nimble. And I can only imagine what the next pin will run. I do like the ability to use their payment plan 'cause Im going to need it for #2 unless I stop buying other titles. And that aint gonna happen.

I'm not trying to complain, but can't we let JJP release their first pin before we start hyping the 2nd?

I was just saying,

Tom

Where the f is his first pin already?
I'm guessing he's going broke and there won't be a second pin.

Either widebody or standard is fine with me as long as it is well conceived and executed. That is, if it is fun. I think that Jack's payment plan is a big plus for my ability to purchase it.

I expect better from you, np...

SOrry, NP. I was picking on your improper use of could where i ASSume you meant Couldn't. In the odd case you meant could, how much less could you care? Sorry!

I am very excited to see what they do next, I'd MUCH prefer a standard body...and if the theme is right and the game looks good, it may be my first NIB...

Do you listen to yourself? I mean seriously stop and think before typing? Most of your posts are down right ridiculous and the ones people may take seriously are nasty and redundant.

It must suck to wake up every day and be a miserable person. In the 150 or so posts I've seen of yours not a single one has been helpful, constructive, or beneficial in any way to this community.

Seriously, find a new hobby.

Big Bucks no Whammies ......
STOP.

Not to be rude to thread starter but these types of speculations get really old.
Stern, JJP I don't care what game. I really would like to see more widebody games personally but no clue what is next.

It was said long ago by JJP himself that all future games will be wide bodies as standard.

That's what I thought I remembered as well.

At first Jack was saying it would be crazy to try and build a widebody first. Jack does like to tease though so not sure if he meant it or not.

I'm hoping for another wide body. Though, I'm really hoping for an original theme. So many good ones to do. Would so much prefer an original theme.

That's too bad. Don't get me wrong I enjoy playing a wide body but many of the pins I love are standard. A little faster. Guess I'm just saying it would be nice if they mixed it up and did both styles.

One manufacturer is making nothing but standards, the other is making nothing but wides. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me at all. Let them both specialize. It's better for us from a quality perspective...probably anyway...if they still innovate...

Ahh. I guess agree to disagree. I would prefer both make both styles and allow the designers to use their talent on both wide and standard. That said, its great to have more pin companies taking off and I'm very interested to see what they all come up with.

Well Dave, according to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), the phrase, "I could care less", is not an improper use of the word, "could", but rather an American colloquialism. Since I am an American, I can use the phrase willingly, knowing I was being sarcastic.

I am still on a Pinball forum, right?

Edit:
No worries Dave, it has been completely forgotten about already.
On to the next one...
Plus,
Salma always has my back if things get crazy.

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Hoping for standard but heard that Jack has told people next will be a widebody as well. Widebodies have more toys but prefer speed of regular.

Wide body's Canberra fast. Sttng properly setup us quick as hell.

I hope not.

It's a bad sign for this forum when the two of us are "fighting". I call a cease fire. I apologize about my attempt to ruin your good name sir. I would post some titties but that's a no-no. Ahh... the good old days when titties didn't offend...

As a start-up manufacturer I would think a little consistency would help with cost savings. My money is on widebody.

It'll be Hercules sized so they can fit the Pink Floyd concert wall of sound in the cabinet!

I missed that, so news to me but...

HEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

I don't terribly care one way or the other.

I think the widebody games offer the designers more options, but they're by no means a prerequisite for excellent pinball machines. Only 2 of the top 10 games are widebodies.

Just as giving an artist bigger canvas doesn't guarantee better art, giving a designer a larger playfield doesn't guarantee better pinball.

There are titty exceptions for Salma.....always allowed, per Robin....

Another widebody after WOZ? I think so.

From what I've heard he wants to make all sorts of machines. I doubt he'll limit the company to only wide bodies. If he said that along time ago I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

JJP just confirmed the next theme: Oprah. It's a widebody which comes as no surprise.

JJP just confirmed the next theme: Oprah. It's a widebody which comes as no surprise.

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I'm thinking Jack will stick to a wide body for the next few pins because the 'shell' . . . the cabinets are already being produced by the company he contracted with to make them to Jack's standards. Seems this would be an economical move to just stick with what they are producing and not have to switch production methods. And to refute my own statement . . . it wouldn't be too hard to re-tool to go to the standard body either!

Mike

I agree with your first point Pintucky, I think it makes production sense to go with another widebody. Just my guess though.

Thanks for agreeing with me tx . . .

Better than being scolded like usually happens. Ha.
Mike

OK, one thing I hate are numbers that are just thrown around. Let's use the 2 of the top 10. If you just take those as they are you would think that very few make the top 10 so they must not be very good. You need to consider how many are produced. 2 of 10 is obviously 20%. If the number of widebodies vs standard is above 20% there is a possibility that widebodies are not as good overall. If that number is less than 20% then widebodies are actually over represented and they are better than standard. I do not know what percent of pins have been wide vs standard since the EM era. I am sure the last 15 years it has been zero. I suspect it is below 20% overal as well

My collection of 25 (including WOZ) has WWF, TZ, DM, and WOZ. That is 4 of 25, or 16%. I like the widebodies and I think I have more than many in my collection. Maybe I will get some time and see if I can find the percent of wide v standard one day.

Well posted absocountry2. I agree that the small population of widebodies is well represented in the top 10. I think disproportionally so. I always had a liking for widebody pins.