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Will future Stern VE / Reruns use new LCD


By Toasterdog

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

Man, I know it wouldn't be popular with existing owners, but it I doubt Stern would rerun any past title with a DMD. I know it would require a considerable amount of new coding, but could you imagine Tron, AC/DC or MET with the same setup as Aerosmith display. ColorDMD is sweet, but not the same.

Anyway, you would imagine it either plays out like that and they charge a premium or they never revisit old titles.

Has anyone heard if this is possible?

#2 2 years ago

It would require all new programming and assets. They're not going to invest that kind of new R&D money into re-running a game.

#3 2 years ago

I hope when they redo Stars, they stick with the original digital displays.

#4 2 years ago
Quoted from Toasterdog:

Man, I know it wouldn't be popular with existing owners, but it I doubt Stern would rerun any past title with a DMD. I know it would require a considerable amount of new coding, but could you imagine Tron, AC/DC or MET with the same setup as Aerosmith display. ColorDMD is sweet, but not the same.
Anyway, you would imagine it either plays out like that and they charge a premium or they never revisit old titles.
Has anyone heard if this is possible?

It is very unlikely, would require too much re-design

#5 2 years ago

So then the consensus is that Stern won't ever rerun any old titles?

#6 2 years ago
Quoted from Toasterdog:

So then the consensus is that Stern won't ever rerun any old titles?

No, the consensus is they won't do future VE's or Reruns of old titles and add the new color LCD

#7 2 years ago
Quoted from Toasterdog:

So then the consensus is that Stern won't ever rerun any old titles?

Yes, but they'll have the boards they were originally made with. Spike 1 or SAM. I'd bet on Whitestar being done.

#8 2 years ago

Whatever pays well is always viable. The question is whether or not the money is worth the effort. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if they did it.

#9 2 years ago

AC/DC will get redone with LCD.

#10 2 years ago

I think it depends on whether Spiderman Vault made any money.

#11 2 years ago

Sure they could. It would be a lot of work but from a business perspective it makes sense for them to try and make re-runs/VEs as appealing as possible over what is out on the used market. And it's less work and time consuming than coming up with a whole new game design.

Will they do it? Who knows, except Stern.

I for one would not be a buyer as I do not care much about the display. I played the crap out of Tron while it was in my gameroom and would have done the same if it had alphanumeric displays.

#12 2 years ago

Well Spider-Man VE is all new dots no? That had to be redone. What's the difference remaking an old game with video?

#13 2 years ago
Quoted from frolic:

I think it depends on whether Spiderman Vault made any money.

Why? That was a DMD re-do.

#14 2 years ago
Quoted from phillymadison:

Well Spider-Man VE is all new dots no? That had to be redone. What's the difference remaking an old game with video?

It was on the same SAM hardware. It was basically a "swap out" from the old dots to new. Plus, they're dots. Dots are easier than full color animation. If they were to remake an old game with a color display, it would have to be reprogrammed to run on the Spike 2 system, and high quality new animation would have to be created.

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

AC/DC will get redone with LCD.

Proof?

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Why? That was a DMD re-do.

Well, it was a taste of the costs of redoing a game, more than just re-running the original as-is. I'm not sure Spiderman VE was a success from a business standpoint. Fine they don't have to redesign a whole machine, but is it worth it to redo something to sell a few hundred units. Or re-run the original as-is and sell something similar.

I'm not privy to what goes on inside Stern and how much money things make so I'm just guessing.

#17 2 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

AC/DC will get redone with LCD.

No need to. AC/DC VE would sell just fine with a DMD.

#18 2 years ago
Quoted from Trekkie1978:

No need to. AC/DC VE would sell just fine with a DMD.

But then they couldn't ask $9k.

#19 2 years ago

Isn't batman basically a ve

#20 2 years ago
Quoted from tron1969:

Isn't batman basically a ve

Thank you! Clearly people are having a heard time adding 2+2

#21 2 years ago
Quoted from tron1969:

Isn't batman basically a ve

Batman is a redesign.

They took the Dark Knight and redesigned a lot of the playfield.

#22 2 years ago
Quoted from tron1969:

Isn't batman basically a ve

Gomez had to make this.

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#23 2 years ago
Quoted from tron1969:

Isn't batman basically a ve

No, it's a redesign with the same toy and a few other elements. It's a VE as much as Aerosmith is a Metallica/Indiana Jones/NBA/Kiss VE

#24 2 years ago
Quoted from Trekkie1978:

They took the Dark Knight and redesigned a lot of the playfield.

You can say that about every pin. They all have elements of other pins.

LTG : )

#25 2 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

No, it's a redesign with the same toy and a few other elements. It's a VE as much as Aerosmith is a Metallica/Indiana Jones/NBA/Kiss VE

Really? I just took a look at both play fields side by side they are both batman, Its BatMan Dark knight and BatMan 66 - same basic play-field "out hole" same place, "Same bat Crain, "same bat location" Spinning toy same location, right wire form appears to be the same with the same bends. there are a few small changes. how do you compare Indy as a wide body to NBA? nothing alike not even the same theme category.

Pretty cool how we all have such different visions of the same things, thats what makes these posts fun to read.

#26 2 years ago
Quoted from tron1969:

Really? I just took a look at both play fields side by side they are both batman, Its BatMan Dark knight and BatMan 66 - same basic play-field "out hole" same place, "Same bat Crain, "same bat location" Spinning toy same location, right wire form appears to be the same with the same bends. there are a few small changes. how do you compare Indy as a wide body to NBA? nothing alike not even the same theme category.
Pretty cool how we all have such different visions of the same things, thats what makes these posts fun to read.

BDK vs. B66: totally different ramps, totally different main center toy, totally different code.

I was talking about Stern IJ. The ark spilling out balls is he same toy as the Toy Box on Aerosmith. The fling trick into the box is the same feature from Stern NBA. The layout and rules are similar to Kiss.

That was my point. If you consider B66 the same as BDK, then Asrosmith is "the same" as those games.

#27 2 years ago

Doesn't Spiderman The Pin (if those are still called that) use an LCD? If they can throw it in there, surely it shouldn't be too hard to do so for future VEs.

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#28 2 years ago
Quoted from nephasth:

Doesn't Spiderman The Pin (if those are still called that) use an LCD? If they can throw it in there, surely it shouldn't be too hard to do so for future VEs.

It's an a completely newly designed game with an LED Color in a new aspect ratio display running off of Spike. Nothing about the older games would be compatible.

#29 2 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

It's an a completely newly designed game with an LED Color in a new aspect ratio display running off of Spike. Nothing about the older games would be compatible.

Thanks for clearing that up. I've found almost no info on it, but don't care enough to dig.

#30 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I hope when they redo Stars, they stick with the original digital displays.

Stars with a LCD would be awesome.

#31 2 years ago

Pretty sure they will use it and add the LCD and no doubt charge us for the pleasure, which if the game is good- is fine by me.

#32 2 years ago

they might but it will be at Batman66 prices and options.

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