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Will future Stern designs live up to IMDN?

By spinal

5 years ago


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  • Latest reply 5 years ago by starbase
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“Will future Stern designs live up to IMDN?”

  • No. IMDN is a one-off and will have little affect on future pin design at Stern. 41 votes
    60%
  • Yes. IMDN will make enough money that Stern will allow designers more time and freedom in the future 27 votes
    40%

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#2 5 years ago

Even if Stern changes its internal timetables, great top 10 games just aren’t created that often - so many things have to come together, and Stern has the huge benefit of all the previous (YEARS!!) of sweat equity put into Archer, for, presumably, free. There’s no way they could support that. Maiden is awesome because it was awesome before it came to Stern

#4 5 years ago
Quoted from spinal:

I agree with that but at the heart of every great game is a designer who had the time to hone his vision. If you tell a designer they only have a few months, all that flies out of the window and it becomes about meeting deadlines very quickly and the inevitable shortcuts that follow. Nothing on them of course - it comes from above.

Totally agree, I guess my point is that even if Stern was open to the idea of giving designers less tight deadlines, Maiden is SO far ahead they couldn’t justify the time this game specifically was given to breathe and evolve

#6 5 years ago
Quoted from spinal:

Could be. Perhaps Stern could pick say 25% of their pins (best future licenses) to be ones where they invest extra time/money to really go for something unique and special like IMDN (for the sake of increased profit of course). This is common practice in other markets to have bread-and-butter products for sale next to the-good-stuff for those customers who can tell the difference. Might be a good way to increase profits and apply more competitive pressure against competitors.

I’m always down for better games, no matter the manufacturer!

#13 5 years ago
Quoted from iloveplywood:

I'd argue that Ghostbusters is a great example of a pin that could have used more development time. Everyone loved the playfield when it was announced but it quickly fell out of favor once people played the game. It just didn't shoot smoothly. Air balls, balls jumping over inlanes, slimer mech not registering. Sort of the opposite of the Iron Maiden experience.

Absolutely agree - specifically QC time, shooting the game and making tiny adjustments. This is something that seemingly all manufacturers could benefit from, but it’s just not a reality any more. They need the games out so they can be sold, which reduces the time available. I can say from experience that JJP is doing a great job following up on things when they have to make changes.

#18 5 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Why are we acting like IMDN cost a ton of monies to make? Did you all forget aboot the low coil count?

The BOM for IMDN may be low, but the massive amounts of labor put into the planning and tweaking of the game are what made it so great

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