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Quoted from woody76:well, all the so called experts and models have been wrong so far so we will see. why are all the folks freaking out on here from liberal states??? hmmmm
Estimated deaths are going down due to the extreme social distancing measures taking place across the country. Those measures are working hence estimated deaths are going down. That's a good thing but why do some people see that as "see you were wrong, this is all BS, people are over reacting"? Ridiculous.
Whole lot of misinformation in here.
Funny how many epidemiologists and pathologists there suddenly are. Facebook and Twitter must being doing corespondence courses.
And not requiring a Math component.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:What an insensitive comment to make during all of this. Can you catch diabetes, a car wreck, suicide and spread it to others where those you infected may then die? No. All of those things you mentioned don't lead to being hospitalized where your family cannot see you as you gasp for air and where you may die alone.
cancer? other diseases? are also in those daily American deaths that are out of most folks control. you better be very concerned for cancer patients and deaths moving forward. more folks will die from cancer this year than this virus.
gasping for air, you mean like the freak out for ventilators that are now NOT needed unless your within seconds of dying? such a joke. NY just had to have 100's of thousands and now they are saying using ventilators makes it worse. Again, the experts where wrong.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Estimated deaths are going down due to the extreme social distancing measures taking place across the country. Those measures are working hence estimated deaths are going down. That's a good thing but why do some people see that as "see you were wrong, this is all BS, people are over reacting"? Ridiculous.
Dr. Birx admitted the original models had social distancing factored in. THEY WHERE WRONG.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Estimated deaths are going down due to the extreme social distancing measures taking place across the country. Those measures are working hence estimated deaths are going down.
No. This is a false argument and not at all supported by facts.
California had a 2 day headstart on NYC in distancing. Indicating that there is 0 chance that distancing had any discernible effects.
It is much more likely that California, Washington and Oregon populations were exposed long before NYC and that exposure checked the spread.
We have very little in the way of facts here, other than total number reported dead from Corona (and that number is in no way representative of a real/reliable number).
Time will tell.
Quoted from guitarded:No. This is a false argument and not at all supported by facts.
California had a 2 day headstart on NYC in distancing. Indicating that there is 0 chance that distancing had any discernible effects.
It is much more likely that California, Washington and Oregon populations were exposed long before NYC and that exposure checked the spread.
We have very little in the way of facts here, other than total number reported dead from Corona (and that number is in no way representative of a real/reliable number).
Time will tell.
That's false, social distancing measures are working to slow the spread and decrease the number of deaths as opposed to doing nothing. There's multiple reports of this including during the daily White House press briefings. If everyone was just doing whatever still things would be far worse.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:That's false, social distancing measures are working. There's multiple reports of this
Do this one little excercise :
Accept your hypothesis.
Assume that your facts are 100% wrong.
Re-Test your hypothesis in light of this.
Same result?
Your hypothesis has to be wrong.
This is formal. NOT applied to just this case. It is a simple test to check for fallacy.
Quoted from guitarded:Do this one little excercise :
Accept your hypothesis.
Assume that your facts are 100% wrong.
Re-Test your hypothesis in light of this.
Same result?
Your hypothesis has to be wrong.
Nah I'll just continue to trust the experts with actual experience in this topic over your opinion. Dr. Fauci only has 30+ years of experience with infectious diseases so why listen to him right? Please go tell Dr. Fauci to run your little exercise lol.
"The real data are telling us that it is highly likely that we're having a definite positive effect by this mitigation things that we're doing — this physical separation — so I believe we are gonna see a downturn in that. And it looks more like the 60,000 than the 100,000 to 200,000.
"But having said that, we better be careful that we don't say, 'OK, we're doing so well we can pull back.' We still have to put our foot on the accelerator when it comes to the mitigation and the physical separation."
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Nah I'll just continue to trust the experts with actual experience in this topic over your opinion.
Obviously you don't understand how logical fallacies work.
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