Are they wiping down the machines after each person?

That's certainly one way to keep people outside the cough distance!

It isn't that they are actively trying to sow fear. It is that 'news' is boring, and sensationalism is where it's at. They have to get viewers, people like sensationalism (which is typically some form of 'you better watch out!').

Something stinks here.

Already picked out my outfit. Ain't nothin' gonna stop me now.

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It's really not about the average person getting it, it's about spreading it to those that could be impacted severely by it. You have it for weeks before you even know in some cases. It's also the difference between a virus that has a vaccine, and one that doesn't (and which is more contagious as well). I'm not sure what part of this people don't understand. If you are going to compare it to the flu, at least grasp that concept. I do think those going out and clearing shelves are going overboard, but NOT going to huge events crowded with people is more common sense than going overboard.

and sneeze guards.

And they are now saying it can be passed through poop particles, so you might want to wear carbon filtered undies.

I'm curious if ice is reading the same thread as the rest of us...

Someone should tell him about how alcohol lowers your bodies ability to fight off disease.

If only I thought you meant that.

I posted a video in the main thread yesterday about his take, which is basically, it's blown out.

The penis is the cleanest part of the body, with the overall loswest bacterial count. The cornea of the eye is the next cleanest part.

I'm going to go and set up a toilet paper vendor stand.

percieved is the wrong way to look at it. It is a 'potential' threat. The threat is real, just the actual outcome is unknown.

I bet people remembered when polio was just going to blow over too.

So, is it 'bad', or just precautionary? Do you feel they are over reacting?

Nah, let's just ignore it. What's another possible 100k+ deaths a year on top of the flu. Acceptable losses as long as the monkeys keep grinding.

Well good luck to you all over there.

That's an awesome go-cart track

Someone in one of these threads pointed out that insurance companies don't cover 'epidemics'. Don't know if true and/or extends to these sort of things, and really...I'm not sure our government has even classified it as an epidemic or still consider it a media hoax.

It's early yet.

I'll listen to this, but when I saw the address my first thought was it's going to be an entire podcast of 'Buy Apple stock'.

Well this just dropped:

• The World Health Organization has formally declared the COVID-19 outbreak a "pandemic."

We are in the beginning of an unprecedented world wide incident. Things that happened 100 years ago didn't have all the things going on we have today or the population numbers. It's not comparable. They failed to get a lid on this early on and it is out. We can hope that this will not be serious, but no matter what happens, some people in charge should REALLY be rethinking how they react to these things the next time around.

I want to laugh...but...I don't want to risk inhaling.

tldr version:

"We're f'd".

neither will his older relatives.

Don't even bother. It's not worth it anymore. If there's still people out there with this mindset, nothing anyone says short of them on their deathbed is going to change their mind. They need someone to blame it on.

Except I haven't panicked at all. I'm just smart enough to realize if other countries are panicking to the point of locking down their country, there might be something to be concerned about beyond 'the media'.

I'm not sure what reality you are living in, but it isn't this one. Just because you choose to believe it's all hype, doesn't make it hype.

Like I said, not worth the effort. Good luck.

They have spoken here at length, but it's buried in the last 5 pages or so somewhere. Mostly about they are in touch with the local officials and still plan to hold it unless told to shut it down. I'm sure they'll speak up if there's something else to add.

I think the toilet paper companies would agree there's already a panic. They need to call a state of emergency on that.

There seems to still be a lot of unknown about if this virus will go into summer or not...I was initially thinking mid april in parts of the country...but really no idea.

How's Austrailia/NZ doing?

They aren't forcing you to go. Don't go.

I think at this point, if you have anyone in your life you actually care about that you could possibly infect that might not fair as well as you, doing any of this is a stupid human/unnecessary risk. This is why people can't agree on things. You want to say drinking/texting as an example, because you've been told those are bad (and possibly seen the results). Well, people who've seen the results are telling you this is bad. Take heed.

Whysnow Let me help you see the difference...

Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart disease: 647,457 - Doesn't infect others
Cancer: 599,108 - Doesn't infect others
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936 - Ban cars. Doesn't infect others
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201 - Doesn't infect others
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383 - Doesn't infect others
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404 - Doesn't infect others
Diabetes: 83,564 - Doesn't infect others
Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672 - Yep, that sucks too bad we don't do something about that too
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633 - Doesn't infect others
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173- Doesn't infect others
Corvid-19 - Infects others.

They also say it is in poop particles, so if someone farts and you smell it.....

Actually I would say most people don't avoid any of that, why do you think the flu spreads so much? As for avoidance, I will say before this I was clueless as to how many people died from the flu. I rarely get it, but hate when I do. The way I look at it is we already have the flu to deal with. Who really wants to deal with ANOTHER potentially fatal sickness on top of it. It's probably too late though, it's probably here to stay unless it mutates into something harmless.

From left field though....I still am more scared of Lyme Disease than this. Fuck ticks.

I think the 'why' has been covered multiple times. I even addressed a bit of it in the post you quoted.

And that's illegal in most cases, so should have cured itself! *cough*

If we are lucky, this will die out with a whimper. If we aren't lucky, this could turn into any of your favorite apocalyptic films.

<cue The Thing: Blaire computer infection spread simulation> (can't find a pic)

Okay that was weird...even for The Onion...

It's not really the right perspective at all. He was trying to diminish the concern over corona by comparing it to a myriad of other things that kill people (the same as 100 other posts regarding 'the flu' have been trying to do). The key thing with the majority of those is - that is PER YEAR. The second thing as I pointed out is the bulk of that is SELF INFLICTED. People DO care about those statistics, but others can't do anything about them. THIS others can do things about. Not sure what else needs to be said. If people don't understand the difference yet, maybe darwinism will figure it out.

The fact that at this point we are still arguing about the seriousness of this explains so much about what is wrong with the world.

'Merica is the world. Duh.

God damn, you make one consider staying away even if we aren't in the midst of a pandemic.

I think it's a little early to jump on the 'never again' if 'this' bandwagon. Give them some time.

Honestly, wasn't even on my radar until this thread, but definitely will be looking at going next year.

It feels wrong upvoting sad things.

The 5 stages of grief sure go fast for some people.

Wonder how many of these people are willing to put their 10-30 pin collections on the line to show how confident they are that this is going to be 'over' in 2 weeks.

We really hope it does end that quickly. Even if it does, it doesn't mean what's being done was wrong....well except maybe the toilet paper hoarders. They are freaks.

Yea to clarify, I am in the shutting things down camp. It will be a very sad state of affairs if this does last 2-3 months.

Rumor is it's going to be themed around Chinese Democracy. Can't wait! By far the best GnR album.

I thought they were living life by The Art of the Deal one page at a time.

Because no one goes to the movies anymore!

Seriously though, I thought the same thing. They are definitely feeling it though. I was reading a few articles about movies that opened this week and they make hardly anything. I mean way less than normal bombs.