Oh yeah nice line up!

You'll be waiting quite a long time for this pin to come out. It won't be the next Jersey Jack release.

Okay.....

Source? (Yer butt doesn't count, by the way.)

There's always gotta be "that guy."

I mean honestly, I think TS is a better fit for the JJP model anyway. Given today's cultural climate, I just can't see GNR getting very good press. Bring on the toys. And there had better be multiple playfields, multiple monitors, WiFi updating, network play, and a cabinet that doesn't have melting and blistering goo for clear coat.

As a huge GnR fan, I wish GnR was the next pin out. I also hate that today's cultural climate dictates what people do. F them, GnR is the top touring rock band 3 years from 2016-2018. People love GnR, they were selling out stadiums. I'm sure Toy Story will be great, but honestly, are kids playing pinball machines or adults?

A JJP TS would be awesome

Kanada (I mean) Ballpin do you have any other info to share to support your confirmation? Sorry but joining Pinside last Monday its hard to take this for more then mystery poster, mystery informant, mystery story? Like to believe most things but this seems a bit in left field. Guess we will see.

I guess in the end it doesn't really matter for me, I likely won't be purchasing a NIB one of either title anyway. My days of NIB purchasing were short, and they are now likely in the past as well.

I guess when these new JJPs come out I’ll finally have to make a decision - do I want Wonka after all or one of the new ones ? - I’m kind of looking forward to it, but I’m not in a hurry. I’m sure I’m not the only one who likes to put off decisions, right? Theme is rather low on my criteria list - they’re all fine, maybe a slight preference for Wonka.

I have no idea what is next. Beyond Pinside rumors. I can't look out the door and see what is on the line.

I do know that the powers that be need to make decisions. What they think should be next, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. etc. For a variety of reasons. Timing, license agreements, all kinds of factors.

Then this year throw in the shut downs. This has effected every industry and manufacturer. A friend of mine owns a heating and air conditioning company and he's run into 5 week or more waits for units.

So a pinball company needs a huge supply of parts to stock an assembly line and plan for production to start up and keep it moving. Common parts, probably not as big an issue. Pop bumpers, slingshots, flippers, type stuff.

Now anything custom made and specific for a game. All of a sudden may take months more than hoped to get in adequate quantity, could effect when that game comes out and move a different one ahead of it.

All of this must be driving every pinball manufacturer nuts right now. Trying to get everything needed in place to get a line going.

I hope nothing but the best for every pinball manufacturer in these crazy times. In the early 1990's when manufacturers were cutting back and closing lead the industry almost to the point of no return. Only Stern was left. So right now I don't think we can afford to lose any manufacturer and risk repeating the pinball industry crashing again. Next time it might not come back.

I hope things get rolling again and new titles once again start flowing out the manufacturer's doors. So the industry as we know it stays healthy. No matter which title is next or the reason behind it.

LTG : )

This is a great question ... I asked the same thing when they produced Willy Wonka ... pretty sure I put a WTF in front of it.

A message full of hope and optimism,now that's kind of refreshing here on Pinside

Here is the guy with the high score on GNR in my house.......

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Hope JJP brings high scoring finally into a game like the old GNR pin, at least Stern did it on Iron Maiden which makes it more fun as well.

"If the last YellowBrick WOZ is sold there will be a special edition "WOZ Purple Brick Road" without mini playfields and no monkeylifter. Build only 1500 pieces ... Of all are sold ,THAN a GNR will show up. Why did you ask me? "

After this answer I brought my glass sphere to the service

No, there will be more YBR made and, the kick in the jimmy will be, it will include the monkey. When JJP announced the YBR version they said it would be limited to, I believe it was, 200 machines "this year" and that "more could be made".

Can't. Monkey won't fit in the new cabinet.

LTG : )

Goodbye "middle truth," I've found my new favorite pinball euphemism!

HA! That is fantastic. Thank you.

I worked on a Ruby Red in Hopkins. It had the new cab with the boards in the backbox. It had the monkey... It was just made in the last run.

That was only for YBR. The machines (RR so far) after YBR have the monkey back in them.

GNR Vinyl revival down here atm.
You guys in the States or Europe getting this as well ?
Hope you are, seems like decent value.

I can't wait to get a high end turntable and start a new vinyl collection and get back into the pureness of Vinyl.
The 80's with raw power of a class D amp tweaked by analog equalizers was so fun

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How much will the Pro be?

Now seems like the right time for JJP to make some sort of announcement in the next pin (regardless what it may be) to take some of the steam out of the Stern Avengers release. I am no marketing genius, but the # of used pins hitting the pinside market have gone up significantly the past 2 weeks due to folks making room or getting cash to buy the new pin. I would think by making an announcement, some buyers may just hold that cash for the new JJP - especially if it is GNR! I understand the manufacturing delays, but an announcement, even a teaser for a December release may be enough to get some buyers to hold. And, I also k ow that suppliers are struggling with the downtime and require up front cash to keep lines running and production flowing - offer a preorder on a 3 month delay if you need the cash - let the pinball community help.

I felt that one major way JJP differentiated its-self from Stern is that the machines were wide-body, which made me want them more.
If JJP are moving to standard body games then all of a sudden Stern games are equal to JJP, but with Stern having the distinct advantage of them putting out a handful of themes a year, so far more choice to JJP.

Don't get me wrong I have and love Wonka & DI, but in the time these have come out how many outstanding Stern 'standard body games' have there been? Quite a few.
I am 5 for 5 with JJP but questing if that will continue.

Received email from Joe at PinballStar that announcement is in October for JJP #6.

GnR... aren't they a 3-hit wonder? Am i being harsh there?

A little yes.... lets say they made a very long career out of two really good records. . . .
1. "Welcome to the Jungle"
2. "Sweet Child o' Mine"
3. "Patience"
4. "Paradise City"
5. "Knockin' on Heaven's Door"
6. "Paradise City"
7. "You Could Be Mine"
8. "Don't Cry"
9. "November Rain"
10. "Live and Let Die"
11. "Yesterdays"

Coma
The garden
Dead horse
Bad apples
Don't damn me
Estranged
Shotgun blues
Back off bitch
Since I don't have you
Mr Brownstone

And the list goes on and on......

I guess... Haven't ever heard of any of those songs. I wouldn't call them hits.

Used to love her...

The songs being hits don't matter, its the concerts. We saw gnr in the 90s and it was a great show. Same as kiss in the 70s, not the best music but some of the best live performances

that being said I'm still buyin zepp over gnr

Stern would be the best to do a Zep pin as it would need to be a re-theme, like a lot of Zepplin songs were "re-themes" of other peoples songs.

Oh I think they wrote plenty of their own songs.A lot of the blues stuff were covers

So sad.....
Go and enjoy them on YT or something....they are all great songs.....

Too much $$$, I’m out. Is the Standard $8000?

I think Wonka standard was $7500....keep in mind their standards are more line Stern premiums....LE's were $9K, which is basically in line with Stern LE's with way more additions than Stern provides

$9500

I stand corrected

When I saw them last fall on the tour, they absolutely KILLED it with their renditions of "The Seeker" and (believe it or not) "Wichita Lineman", and over the years have done lots of similarly good cover tunes live. Rest assured, there's no shortage of great material to make the game code as deep or deeper than anything else JJP has done!

I couldn't enjoy their greatest hits if you paid me Mike Tyson 90s money. I know many like them, but they make my ears bleed worse than country, and they did back in the day too. Seriously, if take Garth Brooks instead.

great story dude!

Curious, do you think he likes the band?

I could respect it until Garth Brooks entered into it.
Now, a soothing down under voice like Chris Gaines maybe.

Pretty sure Pat convinced JJP to go narrow body only, which is a mistake. Can he retire already?

Damn it Lord Lawlor strikes again!

I thought I was the only oddball that enjoyed that Chris Gains era. Lol

He did a nice job with Wonka....that game is fun and addicting ..... although I agree that JJP wide bodies are great