Do you have kids? Teletubbies' target market is infants (or young toddlers) with almost zero appeal to anyone over that age. Toy Story is more targeted towards school age kids, plus it has that second level of humor that appeals specifically to adults. This should be obvious, but there is more depth to Toy Story then Teletubbies, Blues Clues, or Barney. In my opinion, this depth is why Toy Story works while the others you compared it to will not work.

I feel even more strongly when someone thinks Teletubbies and Barney are in the same category for themes. There's hyperbole, and then there's being downright incorrect. Your attempt to directly link Toy Story to these baby shows is either a swing and a miss in the humor category, or a confirmation that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Probably no idea what youre talking about is the most likely explanation.

Yeah Toy Story is a hard no for me.

I will start this off by saying Toy Story is not a theme for me. However, if the rumors are true and we get a Pat Lawlor / Toy Story it will be the closest thing to a slam dunk JJP has had yet. If you are into JJP games and have kids, you will be buying. Hopefully after this turns into a cash cow for JJP they will grab the "Nightmare Before Christmas" licence. That would be a match made in heaven for them.

I'm thinking the same thing about Incredibles. Absolutely love those movies - more than my kids do.

Yeah. I just don’t see how it would’nt be the best seller of theirs. With ease.

Games, especially pinball go down a lot. But that is the nature of the operation. I am simply speaking from a theme standpoint. It would be desirable at many different locations. If the game can earn decent at each it is a winner.

Also there is the power Disney brings to this to automatically make it a very very recognized IP.

Same here. And I like Pixar stuff. Incredibles would translate to pinball much better IMO. Many seem to disagree though. Sounds like Toy Story will sell.

Now from a PRODUCTION standpoint there are a lot of land mines with this title:

1) Do you get Tom Hanks and Tim Allen speech? Remember the closed space helmet from Apollo 13?
2) Are there restrictions on the 3rd party toy characters? (Potato Head, Slinky Dog, Barbie)
3) Working with Disney (who now control 40% of movie licenses UGGG)

All I know is that I am going to start hoarding Hallmark ornaments to resell to the the glue-shit-everywhere-on-my-playfield crowd.

Have some goddamn respect sir, their name is "Pinside" and you should address them accordingly!

I look at it this way.

For me, Toy Story, GNR, and Willy Wonka would EASILY beat the themes on ALL 4 machines JJP has already turned out.

That's a big start. If DI is a reskin, I'm in if it's Wonka or Toy Story. Not interested in any WOZ reskin at all.

Not even an Evil Dead or Hudson Hawk reskin would make me get a WOZ

Totally agree Pixar is at it's best with the movies that work on two levels. Incredibles was way more a movie about Fatherhood than it was about Super Heros.

Why toy story is a bad license: I don’t like it.

Why toy story is a good license: I like it.

Fascinating. We should do one of these threads for every possible license.

Pretty sure we have

Exacttly:
WOZ= great
GOT= meh
Aerosmith=terrible
Toy Story= Fantastic.

You can go around and around with threads based on personal opinion. God knows there are a lot of them here on Pinside. I have my personal preferences. I like Toy Story and would love to own a pin based on that theme

Can we at least wait till it's announced before...

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Mad LOL no I just will not waist kind words on an overpriced and overhyped game that may never come out

I think this will appeal to the people that are younger coming into the hobby. I'm 40, so I was 16-17 (just starting to drive) when Toy Story came out. Toy Story was the first ever full-length, 3D animated movie in history. It holds a pretty big importance for me as in opened alot of doors in my field of work. These movies have been viewed by young and old for the past 25 years. Now flip the coin, I have never seen an episode of Munsters, I've never seen the beatles live or bought one of their albums. What I'm trying to say is Toy Story = new generation of pinball player, Munsters, Beatles, Jaws = older generation of players. I do believe it's good business to try an appeal to the younger crowd to keep a good and healthy customer base. We can't all have all old folk's pins

Like it or not, a Toy Story pinball machine will open up the door for future pinball themes of all the other great Disney children's movies from the past that the mostly 40+ year old adults on this website have been dreaming of-

Cinderella
The Aristocats
Finding Nemo
Bedknobs and Broomsticks
Bambi
Song of the South
Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier
Old Yeller
Darby O’Gill and the Little People
Son of Flubber
The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes
The Barefoot Executive
Escape to Witch Mountain
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
The Lion King
101 Dalmations

and of course Dumbo to name a few.
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Wonka has nostalgia for older pinheads that have the cash to pay for an expensive jjp machine. Who doesn't love Gene Wilder???

Toy story is meh, and will draw a few kids and younger adults on location. Less sales to the pin market in my opinion. I would never buy it, and I don't consider myself too picky about theme. Adult themes or at least age-neutral themes are a must though. Agree with Ben about licensing limitations and hassles.

At least it's not a "previously Stern" theme like Pirates, and I'm happy that jjp continues to make machines. Hell of a company.

Too much time on your hands obviously

Not like every other ride at Disney doesn't have an over an hour wait on a holiday weekend.

Surprised you aren't pimping a Dumbo pinball game as well. Toy Story land might be re-themed three or four times and Dumbo will still be standing. They are already ripping out Bugs Land and Monsters Inc at the land.

Worthless thread that few would agree with. Toy Story will be huge and if a theme park had 10 GNR's in a gift shop, they wouldn't get played either. You have made zero valid points and think The Hobbit is a good game, lol....

I think the point he's making is with all the pinsiders saying they want old man themes because no young people are buying or can afford or even care about pinball machines, then why all the sudden a children's theme?

Do you get a pinside achievement for -60 or more downvotes on a single post?

Maybe its because we are not all old men who want shit themed rock band games, that I will add, HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE. Or maybe its because some of us have families and actually care about them getting involved and playing too. Nah, that makes zero sense.

What seems to be missing in all of this is the happy medium.

Sure, I have no desire for ancient rock themes or movies from the 80s or more old TV shows when it comes to new pinball games. But all that gets offered up as an alternative is a children's movie? Talk about one extreme to another!

I understand wanting to get the kids involved, but they grow up fast and they will be over any pinball theme in no time, especially one for the 10 and under crowd. Trust me on that one.

Can you give some examples of any licensed themes you would be interested in?

I prefer it when the creative geniuses that make these games that cost so much money come up with the themes that surprise me and just blow me away! That's always been part of the excitement of pinball for me.

I will admit there have been quite a few surprises lately.

And I do appreciate Toy Story for what it was. I got pretty good scores on Buzz Lightyear and Toy Story Mania when my daughter was under 10 and we used to go there. And we'd stop and piece together a Mr. Potato Head on the way out.

Yeah, but can you beat MY GC Spicoli?
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Too bad Disney didn’t bother to get with the current times and spring for the seventh digit.
Or at the very least, let me roll it.

Yeah, screw the pinball machine. It looks like I may have to use the funds to renew that annual pass now.

Nimble, has the price gone up much in the last 10 years?

GnR has been on a reunion tour for almost 2 years and absolutely tore the place down, racking in millions. I saw them in concert and they were incredible. GnR has aged really well.

Toy Story - could care less. I don't think it's a bad theme though. Pirates is worse.

GNR was an awesome band and the last time I saw them T-2 was the latest and greatest pinball machine. First time, the original High Speed had just come out.

With the newer technology, this one should have better audio and an expanded song list over what the game from 25 years ago had.
Has it really been 25 years?

One in a Million
I Used To love Her
My Michelle (full song this time}
Back Off Bitch
You're Crazy
Out To Get Me
Pretty Tied Up

would be some great material JJP could work with.

You want to talk about a theme that is unattainable “ Song of th South”. The movie has never been released for home viewing; it has been over 30 years since it was re-released in theaters. I am surprised that splash mountain hasn’t been re-themed.

On a separate note, we were just at Disneyland on Saturday and rode POTC. My wife did not like that they took the auction of women out of the ride.

I think it could be a cool imaginative theme for families but I would go a slightly different direction compared to the movies and create a new Toy Story Pinball Adventure something like what I posted in another thread:

Story
- use the characters but use a fresh story line to stop Zerg from taking over the universe

Challenges
- collect the characters
- main mission is to collect parts for Buzz's real space ship, depending on parts collected will determine the spaceship's destination and wizard mode
- collect toy parts from Sid's yard to add to the space ship
- soliders do a recon mission to find parts (at Stern, Spooky, Americian Pinball, Deeproot, but don't bother with Homepin)
- definitely go to the arcade and collect the aliens as you need them for the language translation - then may as well dive into a JJP pinball game while at the arcade to retrieve some parts and incorporate JJP's other games on the screen and 3d walk around in the world of that game on the screen
- fly to say 1 of 3 planets / worlds (depending on the ship you built) to save the planet from Zurg's universe take over, if you defeat the wizard mode and save the planet you then fly directly to another planet as you get spaceship upgrades and you choose the planet.

Characters
- Buzz, Woodie, Jessie, Rex, slinky dog, potato head, Aliens (Claw Machine), Rex, the green army soldiers , Emperor Zurg

Ramps
- a slinky dog ramp where the slinky coil goes around the ramp and maybe the ramp could stretch out to place the ball in a new area once some goals are achieved say 300mm long then stretches to 350mm long and then 400mm long.
- also have a bright orange hotwheels track with a loop or a jump and depending on the speed on the ramp could be - slow lands on the playfield, medium gets to a lower ramp and high speed gets to a higher ramp and a better adventure

The planets could have weird planet names but the 1st letter of each planet can be be from J - J - P (Jersey Jack Pinball)

On Pinside, we refer to that as a "Dream Theme".

I heard the POTC pinball game not only includes the auction, but has the wenches and the pirates running in circles in three different directions.

Toy Story? thats the new theme? meh, it will be yet another "Flintstones" or "Shaq".

Closing in on 100 down votes.

In general I've always used the voting system as an agree/disagree rather than dumping on the OP. This perspective also keeps things more civil.

Toy Story - not a bad theme, just not for me

GnR - ditto

Wonka - I'd probably bite

one pinheads opinion.......

I'd play Toy Story in a New York minute

So does that mean there are at least 100 people on this website that want to pay $10,000 for a pinball machine themed after a children's movie?

Man, I wonder what would happen if they ever decided to do an adult theme.

Means your in the vocal, overbearing, obnoxious minority.