Weird, Im a total noob, and I was under the impression that people here are very helpful and noob friendly.

When I posted an introduction in the northeast for sale thread, I received a lot of friendly greetings and advice as well as pms with a few offers and ended up buying a nice machine at a good price. Ive since picked up 3 more machines and have no yet reached the stage of acknowledging I have a problem.

When I had a few issues I couldnt research my way out of, people here were kind enough to take a second out of their day to help me. Ive purchased mods and parts from people here and every transaction was painless to pleasant.

I definitely fall into the lower tax bracket of nooby pinheads though; maybe mo money means mo problems

That stinks!!!

Yawn. Big, big yawns. Please, extoll us with all of your views on cancel culture.

Not trolling.

True story

WTF is “rape culture”?
Who wrote that?

What's your return policy?

Not picking sides here, but Levi does tend to have a "pulse" on the community and has been here WAY longer than someone with 1 post saying what we have heard 100x over.

And no offense directly to the OP. I certainly "saw myself in 2012" when I read his post. I get it; I did it too. One of the reasons I haven't blasted him - I see who I was nearly 10 years ago in that post and remember where I came from.

So, I see both perspectives here. Hopefully, this experience won't shy the OP away.

As far as rising prices, it doesn't just affect NIB purchases. Look at the used market. It is a nearly direct correlation: NIB goes up, used market follows...

If that's not the case, find me a $1800 JM, $1200 DM, $1400 JD, $1500 JP DE, $2100 Shadow etc. They're all gone. Looking at $3000+ now.

Sweet Pinball Resource invoice dude!

Speaking of which, we haven't had a newbie "what's up with that Steve Young guy anyway!?!" post in a while!

this post will be perfect when my insomnia strikes again.

Anyone else notice a patern where a newly created account makes their first post either controversial or a long winded diatribe and then disappears?

Damnit, I meant to say that in my earlier post!!!

Foiled again!

...and then does a podcast about it?

You make good points, but what the OP did was tantamount to walking into a party someone invited you to and shouting to the packed room, "WTF is WRONG with you people??? You don't know? Well, let me educate you!!!"

Kind of a toolbag move, no?

nobody cares what you think

+1

I know everyone is different. But, I don't remember this back in the day of RGP: People buying a game, and accessorizing every freakin inch of it with mirrored this, and changing-color-LED that. Plastic doo-dads, furry pin-footies, and of course- "The Topper" to every game. Why? You've taken what was cool and made it totally gaudy.

A functional mod- like a playfield protector? Sure - keeps the game from wearing out. #47 bulbs instead of #44? Yes- absolutely. LEDs so bright the entire game has a surreal blue glow that takes over the room? Mirrored panels inside the game on sides of the playfield? A light-up freakin Robby the robot drilled into the playfield? NO THANK YOU. But that's just me.

my first thought was "oh shit! did I send that check?" yes.yes I did.
I need to learn to crop.
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Welcome back to Pinside. It was such a nice place when there was a flatline next to your name.

As a newbie who has just joined the hobby and paid close to 3 grand for Judge Dredd I think the OP asked for every single bit of wrath sent in his direction.

Pick any interest or hobby and start off posting like that you will have the exact same response. Or worse...

As a seasoned newbie who chases interests that change like the seasons I would NEVER roll into a forum and lay out a first post like that. Those who call him a troll are probably correct. Most likely a seasoned poster looking for a chuckle or two.

All that said Pinside is one of the nicest one stop shop forums I have ever seen. Thanks to everyone responsible for making that happen!

I just wanted to see what my line looked like.

Before you know it, he'll be writing an EM repair guide for us rubes.

We are - especially to most Maine residents: Many of whom have done a lot for pinball - The hobby and the people in it.

- Start with a complaining diatribe
- Reference Fleabay in any way
- Float silly trades nobody would do (I'll trade my Honey EM, X Files, and Striker Extreme for a HUO Jurassic Park Pro).
- Give advice to those who know 1000x what you do.
.....and you will get the Pinside special newbie deluxe package of ridicule and abuse, as well as ward off all the good people too.

Start with a short intro about yourself.
Why you like pinball?
What you are trying to do in regards to building a home collection (generation? number of pins sought?)
Seeking quick advice on a specific machine.
Making an effort to hook up with other players in public locales (during normal Non Covid times).
.....and you will find Pinsiders are mostly OK and often willing to help newbie's out.

Stick with Facebook pinball groups instead of Pinside and you'll read a LOT less complaining and probably have more interesting conversations with real people versus guys using an Avatar/handle. The reality is, the FB groups are usually self-moderated and price policing, complaining in general, etc, is greatly reduced.

Hows this for you, my 6 yr old says Spyro Adventure on Switch sucks and hes the weakest character on Skylanders! LOL!

“Why the hate for newbies”

Because they typically start a thread like this:

I just bought this pinball machine. No I do not have the schematic or manual, nor did I make any effort to find one.
I found the schematic online, but don’t want to pay for it, can someone upload or send me a free copy.
I have not bothered to clean any of the parts in the machine and it still won’t turn on.
I didn’t know you could lift the playfield up.
Even though I have done none of the above, I don’t understand why you can’t just tell me how to fix it.

It makes my eye tic...

Just Saying, since there are teachers in here:

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/04/522581148/hemingway-didnt-say-that-and-neither-did-twain-or-kafka
On the origin of the quote "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt," which has been wrongly attributed to both to Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain

The earliest evidence that I was able to find was a 1907 book by Maurice Switzer. And it seems to contain a lot of original material and it includes the statement "It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it." So it's slightly different phrasing, but I believe that is what evolved to generate the modern common version.

Lol. Thank you. The sad thing is that I would totally agree with your son on those games. The only good ones were on the OG playstation. At least this time I didnt my pants pulled down after being insulted.

99% of people are, but you can't stir up a bunch of shit with facts like that!

In my experience the big FB groups are run by horrible touchy mods, and full of either complete idiots, or overly sensitive pussballs. Most of the conversations are dumb topics like "there should be a *insert dumb theme idea here* pin!" or "I haven't taken one second to look for myself but please tell me the answer to an extremely basic question" or "check out this cool new game *posts picture of game that was announced months ago*" Maybe some of the more local groups or specialized groups are better but overall I have not enjoyed most of my experience in FB pinball groups.

I think we now have a new meme... Levi #4. The only thing this thread is lacking is a 25 year old price list from Replay to cry over.

I agree with his like 99% except that part about 'not seeing the ball'. That's old man eyes, not led stuff. Sadly...I'm getting there too.

It's all your fault the newbs leave Levi. Congrats, you are officially a curmudgeon. Here's your obligatory "Get off my lawn" sticker.
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I'd like to see the average age of people that add Pukstadiums to new Sterns; I doubt it's the older folks.

Have no fear fellow noobs I’ve been here before .Going over some of my lame ass lazy posts I’ll sacrifice myself to the mob while you guys run don’t worry I deserve it .

Alright boys let er rip !!

your not worthy

It is here. I get the ones that just do white light and UV (Omegas), and turn the light intensity down so it adds warm, even light across the playfield and I don't have to have the room lights cranked. Really helps these nearly 50-year old eyes in tracking the ball.

Well my point was LED's in themselves (colored) do not prevent you from seeing the ball. This has been proven with CGC games that have been converted and look gorgeous. Most people just suck at choosing colors. I too prefer the old looks for older games and led's in newer games, but I also am not a fan of pinstadiums.

Today I learned that there are $12-14K titles.
Huh.
Who knew?

When your Mom goes camping bigfoot takes pictures of her.

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Because you are COMPITITION to them!!!! You or them, or both will offer more $$$ to make a deal and BURN someone else......... Even happens between father and sons......

Didn't say you were trolling, or that it wasn't true -- just that it was a cheap (and ultra, ultra boring) way to sneak in a political comment, that has literally zero bearing on the conversation/topic.

Your mama so fat she sat on a rainbow and made Skittles.

Bingo

Im sure there are a handful of dicks, but this community is the sole reason I decided I needed 3 or 4 pins instead of 1. I dont wanna sit here and shit on the OP, but its probably your fault you're upset.

*edit, I thought people may have been being a bit hard on you, but then realized THIS is your one and only post? We should send you an invoice for wasting our damn time with that rant.

Serious question: How many pins do I need to overpay for before I’m not a noob?

If you buy my overpriced pin I can guarantee you that you will no longer be a noob.

Trick question. Non noobs don't overpay!

Yo momas so dumb, I asked her out on a date and she said “pick me up on the corner of walk and don’t walk”.