The fastest rate at which humans appear to be able to process incoming stimuli is about 13ms. A response time of 100ms is perceived as instantaneous. Championship video game players fall into the 100 – 120ms

What was the variable "delay" on the flippers again?

Many pinsiders are known cyborgs. This data confirms it.

FYI, this chart applies to video games as a comparison:

300ms < game is unplayable
150ms < game play degraded
100ms < player performance affected
50ms > target performance
13ms > lower detectable limit

Competitive video gaming is a big $$$ industry. The comparison in reaction times is completely apt. They are pressing a button and through timing completing an action. Exactly the same concept. The times measured are WAY WAAAY WAAAAAAAAAY below the thresholds of perception.

I completely buy the "feel" argument for the games in general for people that have put 1000's of plays on an original. This measured delay that falls, not slightly below scientifically studied perceptible times, but inhumanely possible amounts below, not buying it. In the end, I don't notice it so I'm glad for that...if some do that's a bummer for them. I suspect it's a combination of factors that makes it feel different. Pinball shouldn't be an exact science anyway...I'm up for the challenge of a variable 1ms-5ms delay...maybe I can make some cash challenging the "top" players

What a cynic you are. You are seriously contending that there are disingenuous people on the internet? What? Like they are a "troll" of some sort seeking out specific threads just to trash a product??? I am shocked. Shocked I say!

Side note: I would be mildly interested in seeing a "top" robo-player get a ball set in the lane for, say 100 shots, with an attempt to hit a specific shot. Scientifically it would have to be a double blind study between the 2 games, not sure if it'd be possible to mask enough stuff to make that happen.

People have them now. What version you talking about?

Flipper power settings would affect shot as well, no?

Guilty

credit dot alert!

Maybe it's time for a preMake if original doesn't hold up to scrutiny. How did people even play these games all this time?!

let's not go crazy

Maybe with the OG's people chalked it up to the age of the machine and with new one's, all shiny and pretty...brand new smooth playfield they "think" it should shoot better or something. This has to have a psychological element.

Either way, should title now be "Why the remakes play EXACTLY like the originals"? Something like that.

no worries...this was great!

Probably no way to confirm this. I mentioned earlier, you'd need a double blind study. Likely you'd have to mask off 80% of a couple games so they couldn't get a clue from anything else. Even then there might be some tell cosmetically I'm guessing--or the flipper mechs or ball launch "sound" different from the oldies etc.. Finding an oldie with a killer looking clear coat that matches an AFMr might be hard. I would love to hear the results though. Let some of these guys that can tell "90%" of the time go head to head with science. Might get surprised by the results.