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Remakes and originals have similar flipper delays

By twenty84

6 years ago


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Post #276 CGC investigates and comments Posted by Doug_Duba (6 years ago)

Post #302 Data from #fishtales Posted by soren (6 years ago)

Post #317 Data from original #attack-from-mars Posted by herg (6 years ago)

Post #460 Conclusions from the OP regarding delay data gathered. Posted by twenty84 (6 years ago)

Post #479 Testing at home? Heed this advice. Posted by woz (6 years ago)


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#36 6 years ago

It is well documented that humans perceive anything under 200ms as instantaneous. So, at under 10ms, absolutely, undeniably undetectable difference.
Interesting experiment though.

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#42 6 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

I'm willing to bet that a 1.5-4.5 ms delay is absolutely perceptible.

How much?

#60 6 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Bingo.
Some of the posters in this thread have got the wrong end of the stick. It's not to do with "your" reaction times, it's when the flipper fires in relation to when you hit the button.
If you are aiming for a tight ramp, there is ONE spot on the flipper where the ball will go up the ramp. If the flipper fires a little later than intended, the ball hits the post instead of the ramp. And as Randy L8vid says, it is perfectly demonstrated in the Pinball 101 video.
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But you can't time your own physical activity down to single digit milliseconds.
Try this experiment. Tap along to a beat that's running at about 500ms, with your finger, on a timing device and have a look at the scattering around the exact 500ms beat mark. You will have a distribution around the mark much wider than 5ms. Even if you know it's coming, you can't get that fine.

#223 6 years ago

I just did a test where I tapped along to music with a beat time of around 700ms. After dropping the outliers off the data I still get a range of 140ms between my taps. I could only get about 25% of the taps to fall within a 20ms band around the true time. This is on a regular beat knowing exactly when I should be tapping. It is extremely unlikely anyone on the planet could control themselves down to a range of 1-4ms.
I am totally on board with the idea that these might feel different, but there is no way it is down to the 1-4ms variation being described here.

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