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Why keep using wood for playfields???

By timab2000

5 years ago


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    #10 5 years ago

    Bally did it in the 80s

    Marsaplay did it again in 2009 on the first game to have a LCD monitor as a backbox display

    But players only like the feel and sound of a ball rolling on dimpled wood.

    (note the tubular steel rails needed to keep the MFD from sagging:

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    #15 5 years ago
    Quoted from timab2000:

    Ok they tried in the 80's..... what almost 40 years ago.

    They did it again in 2009 - so 9 years ago, and players were still not loving it.

    Anyone who wants a plastic playfield for any title, can just get a clear plastic overlay for $100

    Hell, JJP will even install it for you at the factory, for an extra $50
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    #17 5 years ago
    Quoted from timab2000:

    Just trying to come up with ideas to speed up the process of getting the playfields out to the public, without waiting years and years hoping they will be made.

    We just need more companies making reproduction playfields.

    We used to have IPB, Mirco, CPR, AK & Greatwitch

    Now we are down to 2, at the same time that the market for repos is at an all time high.

    #22 5 years ago
    Quoted from Bud:

    I think a quality phenolic material would be perfect.

    Bally did some Xenons out of phenolic in 1979

    #25 5 years ago
    Quoted from yellowghost:

    Plastic ifs awesome idea and I think it could outperform any plywood out there..and it would be mold resistant as well.

    It's heavy as hell ( a 1/2" sheet of plywood is 20 lbs, a 1/2" sheet of plastic is 100 lbs

    It wears out the router bits out much faster.

    It has to be routed at a lower speed

    You have to heat up each screw before driving it in so the plastic does not crack

    It sags under it's own weight, so you need metal side rails.

    It does make the baddest ass looking pinball machine ever

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    #30 5 years ago
    Quoted from solarvalue:

    Wood and a PETG veneer with artwork printed on the underside is the best of both worlds. No clear coat or wear issues but still cheap, light and easy to work with. Homepin Thunderbirds is using this method, maybe Team Pinball Mafia too.

    That is what we have now with the Outside Edge overlays.

    So people who like those, would be the obvious customers for a playfield like that.

    http://www.pinballgifts.com/hardtop.html

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    #37 5 years ago

    Aluminum would be great, except for that it would weigh 60 pounds, dimple like crazy, and conduct electricity.

    #49 5 years ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    Phenolic sheets should get another go. It drills similar to wood, and is very rigid/dimensionally stable. I've used it in some manufacturing applications like high production count material runout tables, and I've been quite impressed.

    It's expensive ($1500 a 4x8 sheet), heavy (4x heavier than plywood), and wears your tooling out fast.

    I can't see Stern spending the extra cash, but maybe some new joint will open that will sell "Ultra Premium Replacement Playfields" if the market will support it.

    #53 5 years ago
    Quoted from phil-lee:

    a pinball is just a smaller version of a bowling alley.

    Exactly.

    And just like pinball, every 5 years the lanes get refinished with a new top coat and new graphics.

    If you ever throw 2 balls at once (like in the movies) the gate comes down and blocks the 2nd ball, so you have to walk out and pick up the ball.

    The angle of the lighting when walking back will show you how dented up the lanes are.

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    #58 5 years ago
    Quoted from ultimategameroom:

    Vid I don’t own any JJP pins and never heard of the “installed at the factory” option before.
    what’s the feedback been as far as pros/cons?

    People that worry about playfield dimples love it.

    People who like the sound and feel of a standard playfield dont.

    In a noisy bar on route, most people probably never notice.

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