Quoted from metallik:

Honestly, no. Hobbit was just as wimpy as WOZ - shooting the middle ramps was "I think I can.. (u-turn) maybe not."

Quoted from cooked71:

it’s cool to hate on GNR now.

Quoted from chad:

Very nice.

Quoted from NickBuffaloPinball:You're right. I came out of the gate a bit hot and apologize for that.

Quoted from jimwe5t:

So sad, you’ve caved in with wishful hoping, for surely an outcome that might not be to your liking. I hope the best for you, but don’t hold your breath my friend. It will be just a matter of time and you’ll most likely be regretting throwing good money down the drain. You want it so bad, your willing to take that risk? Even a $1k discount makes it still not worth it. Is a crap playfield, the main component of any pinball machine, looking like garbage worth it in your home??? You won’t enjoy looking at all the messed up PF post, with washers that cause the areas to gain in size through pooling more and more over time. No pinball machine is worth that kind of frustration. Will look forward to hearing your horror stories 6 months from now, lol. That is not “rocking on” as some no class morons stutter out…
There are 1290 posts on a thread you started to prove you would not be wise buying a known proven mess of a pinball machine. Do you want to drive a car so bad, that it is known to have a paint job that turns to crap for most people, with a manufacturer that will not support you and leave you in the lurch? JJP never has to correct anything with customers like you, because they know they don’t have to make things better, because you want it so bad, you’ll spend $10k anyway! Lol plain CRAZY! Caveat Emptor!!
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Quoted from adborto:

Seems like with this crazy demand right now it would be a great time for JJP to bring Pirates back at a premium. I think they would easily sell a run of 500! Maybe even with properly manufactured playfields!

Quoted from thechakapakuni:

BTW, I see lime 15 GNRs for sale. Is it because the bad PFs or the game gets old fast?

Quoted from Phbooms:

Stern probably made as many AIQs in 1 week as JJP has made total of GnR.

Quoted from Phbooms:

Yeah no mechs on either game besides subway on AIQ which i did like. AIQ shot better though with sweet combo action ill give it that but GnR was a touch more fun overall.

Quoted from Phbooms:No worrys my friend from down under! Code wise on GnR it just felt like it had no purpose besides jackpot score. No journey and more a light show. I actually enjoyed all the multiballs in it. AIQ wise the code is just flat feeling with no life to it. I never fully figured out the computer thing on the left and the callouts and what animations it does have werent good. Best part of code on AIQ for me was when Id push start and Thanos would talk with my subwoofer, lol!
To stay on topic my Wonka has pooling that i stuck mylar washers on. The one stayed in place but the other has peeled loose from the ball hitting the post. The pooling hasnt gotten worse at all though so I dont really mind it much but those mylar washers are worthless i think.

Quoted from Phbooms:

so I think moving forward as long as they come from the factory with all the fixes you should be good to go right out of the box but dont remove the washers cause no saying what could be happening under them. Be interesting when guys start removing the fixes for cleaning and see if there is any pooling or chipping of the ink.

Quoted from vid1900:

Put a bunch of games on display for everyone to play, so the **quality** is evident for all to see.
That would force JJP to announce the new playfield supplier and give us folks who are waiting to buy a new game a timetable of when it's safe again.

Quoted from vid1900:

Stern, Bally and Williams has replaced any warped playfields that I know of.

Quoted from Chuckwebster:

My LZ LE came warped- I sent Stern some pictures to confirm the problem and they said they'd replace it, but would take about 6 weeks until the game went back on the line. I got to play the hell out of the original playfield until my distributor got a new fully populated one. He helped me install the new one and took care of returning the old one for me. Overall an excellent experience in what could have been a disaster.

Quoted from Doctor6:

Mine was. Meanwhile jjp didnt wish to get me a malfunctioning cliffy protector for dialed in. I think that's the point.

Quoted from jimwe5t:

You deaf dumb and nearsighted JJP cheerleaders keep telling yourselves this crap about Stern, but it is also my experience they stand behind all their PFs. You’re kidding yourselves to think they don’t. If you have a warped PF they will replace it. On the other hand, my direct experience with JJP has been the opposite and they refused to take care of issues.
Keep trying to put Stern in the same miserable camp as JJP. Sorry it’s not working for those of us that know the truth. That doesn’t make me Stern’s cheerleader either, because I’ll get all over them for anything they don’t do right, unlike you JJP lackeys. The huge difference is, they stand behind their product and don’t try to flea their responsibilities like the small boutique JJP constantly does. I’m still hoping JJP will put some big boy pants on and do the right thing for Kloss and all those affected by the outrageously bad quality product known as GNR. Look no further than the tons of photos all over the net to know the truth about GNR.

Quoted from Kkoss24:

I will not go quietly lmao.Cheers to this working out and avoiding drama .It’s honestly as simple as that .

Quoted from arzoo:

Interview on Pinball News podcast around 22:40
https://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-p6mbh-f7d2079?utm_campaign=w_share_ep&utm_medium=dlink&utm_source=w_share

Quoted from fooflighter:

That statement from Jack was a “used car salesman” low just a cheap shot at owners...this is my first foray into JJP ownership... And while I’ve made the best of it and helped others put washers and fix their machines to playable condition I’m kind of pissed that I’ve been accused (not directly but as a customer ) of somehow “damaging” Or manipulating somehow my own machine ...to what end...??? The statement literally makes no sense. Very disappointed.

Quoted from RA77:

Seems crazy for any clear to be applied before any drilling or routing ?

Logic would stand that clear is a process that is done when the playfield is completed.

Quoted from AMSNL:

No optical illusion here . To answer your question .... yes you can feel the sparkles and it does not feel magical
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Quoted from Betelgeuse:

I used thin, water based super glue

Quoted from Zitt:

Dats what she said....
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Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

I wanted a GNR and bailed due to the issues and lack of support.

Quoted from BMore-Pinball:

I don't feel like I am missing out at all.

Quoted from 27dnast:

They amended their warranty and did so AFTER buyers locked into buying a game.
That, right there, is all you need to know.

Quoted from thechakapakuni:

Is this Slash wishing Stern made his GNR playfields?
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Quoted from Ashram56:

I suspect any German reading this thread would not have caught the humor

Quoted from romulusx:

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Quoted from Jecco74:

This kit only spreads the damage out farther. I installed this Kit with two washers under the black plastic washer to keep it off the playfully and still hide the damage. Good luck.

Quoted from thechakapakuni:

The backbox speaker design in GNR is horrible. I’m thinking about doing it correctly as a future project

Quoted from thechakapakuni:

While I’m sure that product is good, it’s the speaker placement that’s the issue. They’re facing up and the sound is being reflected up and out. That will never produce quality sound, this rookie maneuver. You can do this btw with low ranges or subs. The reflection actually helps in that case. But not for mids & highs. I would essentially be looking to mount something that faces directly out
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Quoted from Betelgeuse:Can't you just run a line out from the port on the CPU? On Pirates, there is a mini-jack cable that connects the MPU to the sound board. You can just run it to a another amp instead of the sound board. GnR should be the same...

Quoted from Haymaker:

Uhhh thats a scoop buddy. They blow out on everything, including the InDesTruCtaBlE B/W diamondplate PF's. Theres supposed to be a scoop protector on there (yes I know probably what happened on that game).