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Because they view this community as a bunch of suckers that does NOT know how to say "no".
Its like watching your friend date a crazy chick. She's hot AF, but she also is hurtful, manipulative, toys with your emotions, and is known to commit false allegations of rape - but hey - she is hot and you bagged her so roll the dice and hope it works out!!!
Least it is not a cargument.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:I'm really tired of this one but after playfield issues plaguing Pirates, then early's Wonka's, and now early GNR's (and at least 1 recent April 2021 build) I can't help but to ask why is JJP still making games with faulty playfields? Why is JJP not holding Mirco accountable for these issues if it's on them or not allowing playfields enough time to cure?...
One last thing, I have have a GNR LE on order that should be shipped next month. I'm hoping I win the playfield lottery and have a great game. However, as I mentioned above at least one owner with an April build (with washers installed at the factory) had pooling / chipping in at least one playfield area towards the back of the game...
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Looks like you answered your own question. You people simply dont know how to say "no". You HAVE to have that "ooo shiney" that you're willing to take a five digit risk. Dude, you're putting $10K+ out HOPING it is going to work out for you.
Give it to me. I'll invest in crypto and make WAY more money for you, and best of all, you wont feel bent over.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Over the last couple of evenings I spent some time installing a Pinwoofer kit and art blades on my new TMNT Premium. It was nice not having to worry about playfield issues and just enjoy the game I bought. This is how this hobby should be when paying these crazy asking prices.
The last thing we should have to deal with as customers is playfield issues. In my opinion the playfield, and cabinet are 2 fundamental components of a pinball machine that should be a given to be done right. If there's a mech / hardware issue here or there ok, stuff happens. However, the playfield and cabinet should be the last thing a customer ever has to worry about.
Well, it is honestly pretty simple. People keep buying the games, so the manufacturers keep hosing y'all over.
Here, I'll go visual aids to help.
People keep doing this, despite all the issues we have seen to include multiple YEARS of PF QC problems:
The manufacturers see that with PFs that couldn't take a mouse's fart without losing artwork and see this:
And as a result, the community as whole gets treated like this:
Pretty straight-forward, but man, those dream themes just REALLY hook some of you.
Quoted from iceman44:Because these games are so GREAT overall you all know that FOMO will take over again and TOY STORY will sell out CEs immediately AGAIN!
It’s just the way it is. Why? Because not enough people will STOP buying JJP games even under the current conditions.
Pinball people know the overall value they get.
If I wasn’t 100% correct then you wouldn’t be able to sell a JJP POTC for anything yet the CEs go for $35k now
Stop and think about that for a minute. Then get a raincoat for all that “pissing in the wind”.
I cannot tell you how irritating and frustrating it is for me to tell you that you're right.
You have people like me that will hit the PAUSE button and refuse to buy anything NIB until this is fixed. There are WAY TOO MANY people writing checks to make anything change...
I hate how much I agree with you on this. I really do : (.
Quoted from jandrea95:This, is why we are so angered by this entire thing. They simply don't care.
And as long as this community keeps buying with ever increasing prices, it'll stay that way.
Stockholm Syndrome in this hobby is unmatched.
Quoted from Palmer:First you have to admit that there is a problem. He can't even do that.
Kind of no need to when people cant help themselves and keep "buy buy buy"'ing
Quoted from thechakapakuni:I expect JJP to deny the issue. But all the washers tells me they agree it’s an issue, they just won’t talk about it outside the company. I’m pretty sure those are extra costs, research, and work they don’t want to deal with. That and the bad PR. Time will tell, but if they don’t dump Mirco on the next build, I’m pretty sure they are going to lose a lot of sales
But they'll sure "jack" those prices up.... 
Quoted from Skyemont:Yes!! I have pooling on post that are not even touched by the ball.
JJP thanks you for doing their work for them!
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