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Why is JJP still making games with faulty playfields?

By PanzerFreak

2 years ago


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Post #1634 Observations & insight on JJP/Mirco playfield pooling issue Posted by AMSNL (2 years ago)

Post #1649 Uncut playfield photos Posted by AMSNL (2 years ago)

Post #1660 Thin clear coat issues Posted by AMSNL (2 years ago)


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#1055 2 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

You keep saying this and as someone who has a GnR LE on order I want to believe it, but I see no evidence of it.
Can you elaborate?

My WW CE would also like to believe too.

Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Just observations from here and the JJP Pinball Fans Facebook group, reports of playfield issues on recent builds have dropped heavily. However, there was just a report of pooling from a May build owner in the GNR owners thread...This is on a game with the longer posts, nylon nuts, and black washers on the problem posts. The owner reported that one post with a black washer still had some pooling and that he used an iron to get it back to normal. The owner also reported that the clear is very soft.
It's report like these that makes me want to cancel my order, even with being at the $9500 price point. Using washers and irons on a $10k+ game...ugh. It seems like JJP may know that the playfields have issues and are just doing whatever they can do prevent pooling / chipping. As a customer it would be nice to buy a game with the playfield issues resolved and no large washers installed all over the place.

My WW CE definitely has soft clear coat. I'm not having the chipping or art problems folks are having here but the clear, like I said, is just dried pancake syrup. It's my first and last JJP. I know we like our stuff new, but I would pay extra to have a machine that had 250 plays from JJP's factory itself. Burn-in tests don't reveal this stuff.

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#1740 2 years ago

have a chip in the clear coat on my wonka. i searched the heck out of this so sorry in advance. I tried this guide but no help https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-ultimate-playfield-restoration

what are folks using to touch up a tiny chip in the clear coat where the art is exposed? I don't even want to touch the thing because this mirco stuff is pretty terribad.

CA? oil urathane? 2PAC? Or just stick a piece of mylar over it and pray to the gods?

#1743 2 years ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Stern used to send out little bottles of touch up clear. I'd probably use a high grade nail polish. Same thing. Level the pf and it will self level.

Quoted from thechakapakuni:

That’s a tuff one. I’ve touched up places on my TOTAN and while it protects the art, you’ll see the mismatch in the clear. Mylar is good in some cases, but then the ball in gonna track on it (very slightly). I’ve learned better is the enemy of good. So don’t fk with it too much or you’ll make it worse. Grail pins I generally buy a new PF (which sits around) for some glorious day (which will never come) that I have time to make it new again. Sometimes it good enough to just play it. But if it is bothering to where you can’t stand it, go for it. There’s some great touch up vids out there

Thank you both. I'm a less worried about the look and more worried that it'll be the crack in the dam that leads to total delamination.

Great tip about leveling pf first! I probably would have done everything right by masking it off, removing hardware, and even wearing my respirator...but i woulda forgotten.

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