Its not usually a problem out of the box. Check back with us after a month or so of play

If you found it hard to shoot your ramps on The Hobbit , you either had a problem with your flippers or you were getting your power from a hamster in a wheel
On my game , the balls would fly off the habit trails because they were going so fast and it was set up really steep ( on factory settings ) even after 2 to 3 hours of play ,
same with my woz .
Some people have suggested that our 240 volts has something to do with it , I don't know but I've never found Flipper strength to be an issue on jjp games , chipping playfields is another matter .

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Oh yes, "the good ol days".

By a factor 64jy's I'd say.

Enjoy your game. It’s awesome!!!

Minor pooling and a chip that never got bigger over 1500 plays. Good to know.

See, life still goes on!

I bought a brand new 30K Harley Davidson CVO Breakout in 2013. They give you all of a two year warranty and no service plan on a 30k bike. It was leaking oil at the bottom of one of the jugs so I took it to them. The shop guy said that what I had was a weep not a leak and they didn’t cover weeps. Two years later when I took it back for a recall they saw the leak that was still there and they fixed it and tried to charge me. I called bullshit and I told them that I had brought it in and showed them the leak amd they wouldn’t do anything. I pushed my bike out of their shop and left. No one cares, they just want your money

That’s all GnR is is one big multiball flailfest with no goals other than to get through all the songs.

I guess that IS one way to play.

Besides all the endless PF issues, which this thread is about, this is the issue of this game. Poor Keith J. has nothing to program for in this mechless game. Really not ragging on GNR and wanted to like this game as some here apparently do, but no mechs, mean the only thing they could do is program MB after MB. Which makes it as they say in other threads, an unfortunate: “boring woodchopping unfathomable snoozefest” as several guys put it. Which might be a bit harsh, even when some see it that way. It does have an awesome lot of LEDs all over, so people who are into lights should be happy and maybe GNRs best feature. Glad others here like it however and hope they can get their PF “ironed” out as they say and enjoy the game. So unfortunate that JJP customer service really doesn’t exist. Now that is harsh.

I don't know who you are, but if you think having a "mech" (which I'm guessing you mean toy, because technically, flippers are mechs too), is a necessary condition for a great ruleset, then I'm guessing you have a serious case of Dunning Kruger effect, which, would technically make me an idiot for trying to argue with you.

Carry on sir.

I don’t know who you are either, but value your opinion that flippers are mechs, but the most basic of mechs. The whole point of pinball is to see the ball interact with magical mechs. Otherwise, pinball would just become a pretty monotonous game of only ramp/habit trails. Take a good look at DI or POTC to see what I mean. Those games are loaded with ball interactive mechs, which make the games more fun and interesting imo.

So why is JJP still making games with faulty playfields again?

Ew

Because they can get away with it.

Quit feeding Jimmy Wes!

Game kicks ass.

Not for everybody though.

Now, tight posts no problems. Loose? Washer digs into pf and chips around it

Whose fault is that?

If a shooter lane with art gets chewed up after several hundred plays, SM and BM66 for example, is the pf defective? Yes or no

No. Why? Because YOU need to put a shooter lane protector down

Cliffy lives for protecting pf’s

I think JJP has decided the black washers fixed the issue

Come on Icey, you love the feed talk too and you know it. You’re a big part of all what you refer to as “feeding.” Lol It’s all part of any forum discussion and leads to better buying in the future and you know that too, Icey ol buddy. That’s exactly why we all discuss the ins and outs of these machines, that none of us manufacture. Our identity should not be tied to any of these independent companies, so no reason for anyone to take any exceptions to others viewpoints. Hoping it’s not an infantile “my dog’s bigger than your dog” childish forum now is it Icey my boy???

Money.

Either they can't afford to fix it or they don't want to fix it due to making so much money because everyone is buying GnR anyway and are so back logged.

Why the playfields are pooling is another question entirely.

That’s odd because on my GnR, there’s 4 distinct pre-song 2 ball multiballs, *21* songs each with different # of starting balls (1-6) and objectives, 4 album modes (not song based), the tour (not song based), slash solo (not song based) and not in this lifetime wizard mode (not song based).

That’s 32 different things to do in this game (and I’m not even getting into patch collection).

It’s not slow and it’s certainly not boring. But you do have to like GnR music - that is the important X factor.

jimwe5t - you really have an axe to grind for some reason, but I’m done responding to your posts or even reading them. Welcome to my ignore list.

I don’t care who’s dog is tied to what but I’m running down this row tonight. Got it?

And my buddy Wes knows better.

“One way Jimmy”. New nickname
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Awesome lineup Icey my friend! And to think I use to live not too far from you in Texas. May have to move back to play some of your games, lol.

I like all of them
Where’s the Spider-Man

Then buy a DI and shut the fuck up!

Love it but sold it twice! Didn’t I buy yours long ago?

Now how else do you think you know me? That was a beautiful Spider-Man. I wish o still had it. I love JP though and I’m going to buy TMNT at some point. Stern has stepped up their game

I did.. LE for $7100, took the extra $3400 and put toward my AIQ premium.. listening to GnR playing both of them.

So,I was right?

You’re wasting your time Panzer, it’s cool to hate on GNR now.

Btw, think I found the perfect washers:

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That is way too funny, you’re cracking me up, looooooooooool! Good one! Mudguard washers, lol, lol, lol.

Only if you powder coat them in transparent clear so they don't show up.

My goodness, can’t take it any more, you’re both too funny!!!

Looking forward to how they interact with the ball. Should create the interesting gameplay that GNR is apparently missing.

Wow, another Rowan and Martin zinger. This thread is a hoot! Lol

Let the haters hate , the game has way more fans than critics and sales proove that .
I can't wait to get mine and I got something for the games room while I'm waiting .

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That’s a cool neon sign!

Very nice.

Thanks Chad , if you agree , I know I'm on the right track

Reason I happily sold my POTC CE

No rules, no depth, just multiballs
Instead I got some game modifiers by selecting characters. What did that take. An afternoon to program?

than you should have gone for SEGA Godzilla, and than spare some $$$

Great line up, Ice! Although it does look like a bit of a squeeze to play Aliens.

All the way up to being a DB..

Does look tight but I can get in there nicely! What a great game that is

I have 23 pins in that game room garage now. Building a casita behind with a big game room to stretch out a bit

Pure crazy

Still needs better scoring balance they say they are working on along with other updates.

To me, it’s great right now. You will have some great scoring games when you build and cash those jackpots. All the time it just a blast to play a rock concert.

POTC is the most overrated game in pinball.

It is true tho that the album modes themselves seem to be not worth playing tho

Not worth it for what? The scoring needs to be tweaked, but the modes themselves are a lot of fun with cool sound, graphics and objectives.

I was kidding but I could see the misinterpretation

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