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Quoted from gmkalos:Stern looks like this all day laborers probably making close to same wages to what guys on the line in the 60's made
Those guys in the 1960s would probably love to make the $16 starting Stern pays nowadays.
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Sooner or latter the market will obviously turn downwards, as the pool of people who grew up playing pinball shrinks.
Yes, we have all seen a teen or twentysomething playing or buying a machine, but those few are not enough to sustain the market.
Look at jukeboxes. They were climbing higher and higher. But now, other than a few high demand models, the prices are slipping. Really nice machines both CD and vinyl are sitting at great asking prices. "Hey, you can ALWAYS sell a CD Juke......." every dealer was still saying a year ago.
Main thing is that you enjoy what you bought.
If it's worth the price you paid, knowing that you might not get your money back, then that is a good purchase!
Quoted from g0nz0:But luckily when they die you can usually get the good price when a relative starts dumping the collection with no clue of the value.
I went to a garage sale in my neighborhood of a guy I had always hated, and had suddenly died.
His wife was selling all his $$$$ astronomy eyepieces for $5 each.
"He said they were $10 each new, so I figured they were worth $5 used - since I'm throwing in the case..."
That logic made sense to me, I took them all.
(never lie to your wife what something costs, or she'll sell everything for half of that if you die)
Who cares about any of this?
Just keep buying every game that comes up locally.
Don't ever even play most of them, just set them up until your entire game room is filled to the rim.
Then you can proudly look at your pile with your hands on your hips.
Quoted from drsfmd:LCD screens aside, what new tech has come into pinball in the last 25 years? There's literally nothing Stern has done on a playfield that B/W (and others) didn't do before them.
Literally lot's of stuff:
PWM driven flippers
Magnetic ghostbuster slingshots
Fiber optic lighting on TRON LE ramps.
Motorized moving bridges
Peak-a-boo beaded curtains in playboy
Quoted from Rarehero:That was breaking perfectly good working slingshot tech.
A move backwards.
Never again, please!
It's an interesting change-up after 70 years of sameness.
The first ramp in pinball was not all that good.
Neither was the first multiball, or speech, or.....
Quoted from Rarehero:Interesting doesn't = good or functional. Some pinball things are just things that work. Slings have always worked well being slings. Changing them to magnets didn't do anything other than make them less sensitive to firing (due to 1 switch) & give you cheap deaths by randomly just making the ball drop down the middle for no reason. I love magnets in pinball, but they usually have a reason and purpose for the tricks they're doing. Magna slings don't do anything but make slings into worse-slings. It's a gimmick that wasn't well thought out...but hey, that's one of many things that weren't thought out on GB.
I like them so far.
It will be interesting to see what the next version of the software does with them.
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Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:The reliability factor that was pitched so heavily in the late 1970s to switch to SS was partly marketing and partly promoted operator laziness in efforts to emphasize the potential profits to NOT service their games.
Nonsense, and not at all true.
I was still routing the Gottlieb EMs (Gottlieb was the last company to switch to SS), and players were simply not playing them in numbers anymore.
The players WERE lining up to play the new SS games. We would sometimes deploy 4 same title SS games side by side because they were so popular.
The public voted with their quarters
Quoted from LTG:And they were hauling in a lot more money than the old EM's were.
LTG : )
Exactly.
People can cry all they want about how reliable EMs were, but when idiots would flip them over, I'd have to drag them back to the shop because they were so fncked up.
At least when SS games were flipped, they usually booted back up, no problem.
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