The stuff you are saying kind of makes no sense?

Crashes happen when folks enter a market to make money then the returns get lower then expected and they start selling along with a bunch of others that are selling also due to lower returns and then the crash. Do you know any folks getting into pinball to make money? Well why are they getting into pinball? For something fun to do whether it's playing, collecting, working on, modding, playing in tournaments or barcades and meeting a bunch of new friends along the way maybe?

Here is my take - Pinball recently got more popular and took a bump during the recession around 2008ish during a time when folks really valued and respected money more than ever in their lives and made really conscious buying decisions. It was a time when folks were worried about their house values, jobs, the stock market, savings and the future in general. They wanted something they could play in their home with friends and family and pinball provided them that fun and even some comfort. 10 or whatever years later the economy is better and chances are that the same folks who got into it Pinball over the last 10 years are doing a little better also, are more comfortable with their financial situations and have put more money into more expensive pins because they love pinball for one or many of the above reasons. The older school folks who came in before 2008 are folks who may have bought their AFM or TAF for $3000. They love their games and won't move them out the door anytime soon even if the market goes down. They bought pins bead use they loved them and had no worries about future values when they bought. These folks are the backbone of the hobby IMHO. Pinball has and will always be that little break and getaway from the real world for many whether you are a NIB stern buyer, an EM collector or a hipster playing in a barcade. If folks sell then what else are they going to do for the down time? Beanie Babies?

Now if folks stop playing that is when pinball may take a hit, but I just can't stop hitting the start button one more time.

Keep it simple - If you can't afford an $8000 MM then get a $1000 Firepower and just have fun like a bunch of us are having in the hobby.

Hate to say it but pins are still inexpensive relative to other collectibles - go check out prices of what folks pay for graded sports cards and comics, cars, comic book art, guitars, autographs, game worn sports uniforms or movie props.

If you want to make a good comparison go see what $8000 will buy you and see how close you can get to top level items within each of those collectibles. Chances are $8000 will not even get you in the door for an upper tier desirable item. I really think an $8000 ridicously priced pin is more fun to own than what $8000 will get you for any item from the list above. On the lower priced side I think a $1000 Firepower is a lot more fun than any $1000 item from the items above also.

If you think we have it bad you can make yourself feel better by looking around at other hobbies and collectibles lawns. Ours is pretty green. Even though prices are ridiculous!

Didn't you say that you can afford a $10k game, but you don't want to pay that much?

Some good advice is to find a hobby or activity that is at a certain price where it's value lines up with your value and get into that then.

Or get a Firepower and play that if you can "lower" your standards that much. Boo boo.

So did you buy in on the dot coms in the market during the rise and short them in the Spring of 2000 with all your insider knowledge?

Ok OP enough with the same old BS and let's here your true prediction.

What year will pinball prices plummet and how much will say a Monster Bash be after this plummeting that you are predicting?

Step up and let's hear it.

No wonder you are not learning anything.

Ok what year will this plummet you are predicting will happen and how much will your $10k MB example go down in price?

I said $10k MB "example"

Ok comment of buy something you can afford was meant to be an alternative to waiting for a crash to happen.

Bottom line is you just don't value MB at $8-11k while other people do, which is totally fine, but what do you value it at? Like what type of plummet are you talking would get you the keys to this cool game?

Pfft you have know idea when the plummet will happen and how bad it is going to be do you?

You could say the stcok market will crash and the housing market will crash and some day you will be right. Maybe next year maybe the year after or maybe.....

Fair enough. Back to pinball then.

Here was my crazy, stupid prediction on the pinball bubble as a newbie a year or 2 getting into pinball back in April 2013 and follow up in 2014. I really focused on the fact the pinball was so much fun and how can people leave something that is so fun? This is a fact!

See how I did?

(Flame suit on) lol

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/why-pinball-will-battle-on-and-survive