Quoted from fosaisu:
"Artificial value" = "temporary value" = "standard market value" = not a thing. The issue is you suggest these games have some intrinsic value (the $4-5k "worth" you brought up above), but they do not. As if there is some baseline "real" price that was established in 2002 or whatever to which all prices will inevitably return. It doesn't work that way. Prices will keep climbing if demand continues to grow. And they'll drop just as quickly if demand dries up. There's no reason to think prices will stop at an arbitrary "real" price on their way down if the demand is no longer there.
It is reasonable enough to say "the game is selling for $10k today but I believe supply will increase or demand will fall and within five years I can get it for $5k, and therefore I'm not buying now." But to go from that to an assertion that the game is only "worth" $5k today, when the market is clearly saying otherwise, just does not compute.
Ok let me explain it.. one more time.
Maybe I confused you.
All value is temporary because it is constantly fluctuating at all times (a little bit back and forth and never stays put).
I call this market value. It is the value that moves a little but stays pretty much in place. Over time with normal inflation it will go up and stay up. And then will wobble a little back and forth in its new seat.
Events can sometimes cause market value to change "for a short period of time".. I call it artificial because it doesn't really represent the objects value.. (but yes I know, if people are paying it, then it must be the value I get that. Are we still on the same page?)
Well this artificial value (well I had to call it temporary because you didn't like artificial which then led to MORE confusion because I had to change to name because (no value can be artificial) and now temporary value is being confused with the normal temporary value that we see in market value...
Ok I'll stop there.. yeah, I was being sarcastic.
Plain and simple. Items have a normal price that goes up with inflation and at times gets a mega boost due to some event. Normally it never last and drops back down to were it would have been due to normal inflation if the event had never came. I think we all agree on that right? I mean we see it happen all the time. No big secret.
So what caused this in certain titles in pinball? I don't know exactly. I have expressed different reasons. But we all.. and I mean ALL can agree that pin prices on "certain titles" did ROCKET up really really fast. Was it because of pinball arcade? Nostalgia? Greed? The Devil? Hell, I don't know but the increase doesn't feel natural at all.
So with that being said I believe it is a "bubble". And I believe the bubble will burst. And in10 years I'll be right or wrong. Hell if I know. Hell if anyone knows. And yes I understand that some of you believe it isn't a bubble but that all totally worth 15k and that is ok with me. You might be right.. never claimed to be right or wrong. I only wanted to discuss reasons and see what you guys thought.
So there, I wrapped it all up. I have NO CLUE if I will be right, I am not a prophet, I only own one pin, I am new to pinside and I have no clue and people have tried to give me the definitive answer (about the future ... smh) and I refuse to except it.
I am done for today.
I am exhausted.