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Why I Bailed on Stern Pinball

By freakandgeek

4 years ago

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#170 4 years ago

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snaroff

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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
I’m waiting for the Tron vault edition. Does that make me a bad investor or somebody that likes pinball (maybe both)? By the way, all those great Bally and Williams titles were pretty cheap at one time. Who knows what is going to happen to the Stern titles in 20 or 30 years. I really like my Sterns and don’t regret buying them one bit.

I don't know about a bad investor, but the SAM Tron's are easy to find/buy and they are rock solid (I've owned 3 over the years and currently own 2).

If Stern did release a Vault Tron, I am sure it wouldn't be as good as the SAM release. In addition, it's a stunning game and waiting on the sidelines when you could be playing an awesome SAM game is less-than-smart.

#171 4 years ago

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Quoted from freakandgeek:
The point was Stern (and Jersey Jack too) are fucking collectors for their own greed. The only company treating us with actual respect and doing things the right way currently is Spooky. Spooky says they will make X machines and they stick to it. When they are gone, they are gone. This is how collectables are supposed to work. Would you expect Chevy to re-release a '53 Corvette?

I read the article earlier today and thought it made some reasonable points...like you, I'm not a fan of "Vault" editions.

Comparing Spooky with Stern is just silly. Stern builds 30x more pinball machines and likely has 30x more employees.

JJP's from "Day 1" has been more collector focused...trying to give us more for the money. Based on the little I know of their business, they aren't making money "hand over fist". In fact, without angel investors, they would likely be belly up by now. If a company is struggling to make money, it's hard to claim they are greedy...!

#183 4 years ago

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snaroff

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Quoted from CrazyLevi:
I wish you folks would Stop calling blogs “an article.”

"Why I Bailed on Stern" is a feature article on "The Gameroom Blog".

If the term article really disturbs you, I'd consult a medical professional!

#186 4 years ago

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snaroff

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Quoted from bigd1979:
These are big toys not investments? We are lucky to be in such a great hobby and sld be happy we recoup what we do on these toys. No other hobby that I can think of keeps it value as much as pinball machines. Plus you get to play tons of games for endless fun and that counts for alot

Absolutely! It's odd the op focused on Stern and didn't mention CGC. Their remakes of the B/W classics took the air out of a lot of top-tier titles. Definitely effected some of my sales, but ended up putting these games into more hands. A title like AFM was really hard to find in great condition (and commissioning a restoration isn't something many folks are willing to do). I still prefer the originals, but appreciate what CGC is doing for the community at large.

If folks want to see crazy depreciation, buy a new pool table!

#220 4 years ago

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snaroff

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Quoted from Gryszzz:
I bought my ACDC from a Pinsider like 3 days before they announced the Vault. We all knew it was coming. And guess what? I wouldn't change a damn thing. My original run premium is a WAY better build than any vault. Cab, pf, everything.
Pretty sure the federal laws mandating clearcoat ingredients hadn't been put into effect during the og ACDC run. But by the Vault, they had. Just a guess.

Bingo. If I were advising someone, I'd give them exactly the same advice. Newer doesn't mean better. I understand some folks love getting a new/big box delivered straight to their home, but the results over the past several years haven't been great.

The original IM Vault made sense...demand was way out of sync with supply. For other titles, not so much.

#251 4 years ago

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Quoted from Darth_Chris:
Pay more for less is a common thing now in everything......wake up

Particularly true for products largely manufactured by humans (pinball, homes).

For tech products largely manufactured by robots, not so much (cars, tech).

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