from what I see on the web... he ran a previous business that was taken to court multiple times for fraud/fraudlike activity. He had built that business up and then opted to take advantage of people that went to him for help (allegedly, but based on some of the court records... not allegedly but factually)

does his ethics and business issues from 10 years ago matter to you? you personally, maybe not...
others, maybe so...

If it was speeding tickets and a joint in high school, then I dont think it is relevant.

Business ethics/ practices and a new business now.... seems pertinent.

Is one BORT ?

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I don't understand how you guys can rip a product that is so flexible; it has multiple uses.
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toss odd the odd name change in conjunction with the previous business issues and the apparent hidden/lack of real content on Pinstadium/ obsure at best on the web...

it is all strange at best

Where were all the pinside detectives at when stern hired Trudeau?

What, a Stranger Things pin?

context, what context!

That would have been awesome.... To clarify a bit only one's first name is a Simpsons character (Otto), the other two have Simpsons middle names.

I fought tooth and nail to get my kids named after Cletus' kids, but didn't win that battle.... I still feel like I won though.

LOL.

with me having woodard as a last name, woody become nickname very early in life. Way before toy story was ever dreamed of...

Guys with 30,000 posts have a lot of free time.

He or she was out there, just not on pinside. It was a shocker to read.

over 32k thanks you very much

If this guy actually ran an honest business he could have stepped in here and said hey, I hear ya, I'll dial back the goofy gaming of the pinside marketplace...

... instead, he bumps and bumps and bumps his own advertising topic over and over.

The irony is if dude had just chimed in earlier, this stuff about possible other shady business practices never would have come out

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I've learned a lot in this thread, except for what most of pinstadiums products do. I'm kinda amazed at how well he could carpet bomb the site with ads that explain so little about what he's actually trying to sell. I understand the $300 strip of leds (lol), but the rest of the products...still don't have a clue. I'm sure I'm not missing anything of value.

But whatever. The marketing is annoying. I'm indifferent towards the product itself, but it's pointless to argue with someone who feels one way or the other about it because no one is going to change their mind. I'd never buy one or make my own, but if they make someone else feel happy I'm not going to argue that they should hate it.

don’t know if this was mentioned but there website is utter shit! you can barley find anything anywhere.

MJR

It's crazy how someone can confound something as simple as some stick on lights so much that you are clueless as to wtf the product is/does.

Funny thing is, you can literally make these yourself for $20-$30, and there is a whole thread dedicated to it on here.

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It's crazy that you can type a response yet not read what you are responding to. I get that they're some expensive stick on lights. But what the shit is this?

Just like I said.

(I was agreeing with you, btw)

Beats the hell out me. Fancy words for light bulbs.
Is it a cat collar? Something you wear?

Great thread! I just ignore the crap same as ebay, amazon and yahoo.

Thinking back it was a pinside detective, can't remember who, that found it on another website and linked it here right after it was announced he was hired. Not much different than how it turned out to be. The whole pinside post and link got deleted I believe and I don't remember the website it was on.

Edit- found it!

http://www.performancepinball.com/news/stern-pinball-hires-legendary-pinball-designerjohn-trudeau#.XUs54PJKiM8

Dang, that was all the way back in 2013 and I guess Stern ignored it.

I don't get why that person was so coy about something so awful that more people should have known about it

I always knew you were up to something Woody, or should I call you Ron you sneaky devil. What are you hiding over there????

Odds are that person has something to do with why he is in jail now, I'd guess.

Another thing to consider is if that post and link got deleted, how would have that person posting the same thing here have been received? I am not certain it was deleted, but seems it was.

Sorry bruh

The only thing I can tell is he loves using Blender.

LOTS of stuff, but I provide good customer service.

I can't confirm nor deny that there might be a DUI in there from the college years.