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Why does Pinstadium get to flood all market pages


By WackyBrakke

8 months ago



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    #451 7 months ago
    Quoted from FatPanda:

    Is this morphing into the animated GIF thread? Don't get jeffspinballpalace in here.

    Sorry, I am not as good with words as pictures, but I will work to change that. I hope to learn from other threads, there seems to be a few I keep on seeing. Thanks!

    #452 7 months ago
    Quoted from jellikit:

    Sorry, I am not as good with words as pictures, but I will work to change that. I hope to learn from other threads, there seems to be a few I keep on seeing. Thanks!

    It's quite simple actually. Let me teach you.

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    #453 7 months ago

    What is the owner of PinStadium's name?

    first and last?

    I was sent a link which appears to be him from a previous 'business'. Wanted to verify if it is really him.
    Did he use to be part of “Ammend credit services” or "Ammend Credit Counsel" ? anyone know?

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    #454 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    What is the owner of PinStadium's name?

    first and last?

    Hugh Jass?
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    #455 7 months ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    It would be a little more effective if you actually knew how to upload one
    Make sure to select "orginal size" in the drop down BEFORE you drag the gif in

    Haha very true! Thanks for the heads up

    #456 7 months ago
    Quoted from jrivelli:

    Don't most places simply ban people for massively abusing a system? You'd be gone in a heartbeat on ebay, facebook etc for tactics like this.

    Not if you're eBay's biggest advertiser or seller.

    #457 7 months ago
    Quoted from jellikit:

    There is a lot of talk about lighting, but what about color? I don't think it should be excluded.[quoted image]

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    #458 7 months ago
    Quoted from FatPanda:

    It's quite simple actually. Let me teach you.[quoted image]

    Is that a new computer? I have problems typing that fast on mine.

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    #459 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    What is the owner of PinStadium's name?
    first and last?

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    #460 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    What is the owner of PinStadium's name?
    first and last?
    I was sent a link which appears to be him from a previous 'business'. Wanted to verify if it is really him.
    Did he use to be part of “Ammend credit services” or "Ammend Credit Counsel" ? anyone know?

    Hahahaha I just googled it and I think this thread is just getting started....wowsers...

    #461 7 months ago

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    #462 7 months ago

    I agree with the OP in principle regarding shotgun marketing (by anyone, anywhere), but coming in at this point another up-vote seems too much like mob conformity. I do tip my hat to the lone down-voter though. There are a lot of people on the other side of the argument here, but he's the only one willing to put it out there! You are Sparta...

    #463 7 months ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    Don’t Leave Us...[quoted image]

    zmeny I would stay 3000 maybe 4000 feet above this shit show...

    #464 7 months ago
    Quoted from sethi_i:

    I do tip my hat to the lone down-voter though.

    I would too but it's a little contrived. He waited till over 180 to do it so not as effective IMO.

    Quoted from Procrastinator:

    Hahahaha I just googled it and I think this thread is just getting started....wowsers...

    What;s the beef?

    #465 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    What is the owner of PinStadium's name?
    first and last?
    I was sent a link which appears to be him from a previous 'business'. Wanted to verify if it is really him.
    Did he use to be part of “Ammend credit services” or "Ammend Credit Counsel" ? anyone know?

    Ever notice you can't look up the mailing address for Pinstadium, and their business is not listed as "Verified" on pinside. If it is the same "Scott", he's done a good job of covering his tracks.

    #466 7 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    he's done a good job of covering his tracks

    Listen to this guy Whysnow..... He knows what he is talking about. After his failed startup at the "Human Fund" he has been running a successful mysterious Architecture firm for many years....
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    #467 7 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    Ever notice you can't look up the mailing address for Pinstadium, and their business is not listed as "Verified" on pinside. If it is the same "Scott", he's done a good job of covering his tracks.

    links

    They are public so I assume safe to post.

    From youtube video from Expo, his name is Scott Darren and it appears a.k.a. Scott Helterbridge (sp?)

    cross reference of names, cross link to same company
    https://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/04/prweb520367.htm

    There is plenty more on the google for those looking to find it.

    https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ammend-credit-counsel-scott-helterbridle/internet/ammend-credit-counsel-scott-helterbridle-non-profit-consumer-credit-counseling-credit-co-412257

    https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ammend-credit-counseling/cincinnati-ohio-45243/ammend-credit-counseling-scott-helterbridle-anyone-who-has-been-ripped-off-by-ammend-cred-408136

    #468 7 months ago

    https://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/04/prweb520367.htm

    I just googled the company and his name is plastered all over it.

    He gave a speech at expo where he gave his info so it seems like fair game to me.

    #469 7 months ago
    Quoted from jrivelli:

    Don't most places simply ban people for massively abusing a system? You'd be gone in a heartbeat on ebay, facebook etc for tactics like this.

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    #470 7 months ago

    Man this topic is getting DARK.

    #471 7 months ago
    Quoted from jgentry:

    and that pinball people in general are just mostly crazy.

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    #472 7 months ago

    Yeah, I would ask the moderators to please close this thread. The marketing abuse seems to be getting handled, so no reason to let this go derailed any further. Thx

    #473 7 months ago
    Quoted from delt31:

    Man this topic is getting dark.

    lllllooooooooooooooooollllll

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    #474 7 months ago

    Ibtl!

    #475 7 months ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    Yeah, I would ask the moderators to please close this thread.

    I tried that once begging them to "Please delete"

    I had no idea at the time that would someday become a thing.

    #476 7 months ago

    There is obviously two sides to every story, but I can assure you, you can google most people and never a bad word is said about them. Some on the other hand are scumbags and deserve to be outed. Not saying this is the case here, but you reap what you sow.

    #477 7 months ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    Yeah, I would ask the moderators to please close this thread. The marketing abuse seems to be getting handled, so no reason to let this go derailed any further. Thx

    If the guy is attached to a scammy second business, I think we should be able to know that.

    #479 7 months ago

    where are those people that posted “good or bad, he is the king of marketing because you’re talking about his product”....well, here’s a reason why that isn’t always the smartest play sometimes...haha

    #480 7 months ago
    Quoted from bobukcat:

    Obsess much??

    nah

    Multiple people PM me as they have had issues and alleged that he had a past that he was trying to keep hidden.

    I asked the question here to see if a business with obvious shady business practices here was in fact associated with the links I had been given. I think it is worthwhile to clear something like this up for the customer base to know. Similar to the whole Nitro Tommy situation of best practice to just put it out there for people.

    I then received a barrage of messages from others confirming the info and more links to his past business dealings.

    A little more google and things did indeed get a bit dark.

    I linked the high level stuff that was readily available. I think it may help to better understand the business practices that some on here very vocally support.

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    #481 7 months ago

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    #482 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    I think it may help to better understand the business practices that some on here very vocally support

    Do you have experience with his business practices? It looks like almost to a fault, his customer service is fantastic. I haven't seen anyone here state they were getting ripped off by him. This "other" business makes zero sense to post (regardless if it is accurate or not). Some people can be completely different based on what they are doing. Hell, there are even some people that come across as total tool-bags on the internet, and are somewhat okay in real life.

    Put the pitchfork down, this guy hasn't done anything to burn the pinball community (except maybe their retinas).

    #483 7 months ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    I would too but it's a little contrived. He waited till over 180 to do it so not as effective IMO.

    Haven't been following that closely. Down-voting after 180 does seem like a simple protest vote...not conviction.

    #484 7 months ago
    Quoted from delt31:

    Man this topic is getting dark.

    Sounds like you need New and Improved Pinstadium Fusion LED's

    #486 7 months ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    Do you have experience with his business practices? It looks like almost to a fault, his customer service is fantastic. I haven't seen anyone here state they were getting ripped off by him. This "other" business makes zero sense to post (regardless if it is accurate or not). Some people can be completely different based on what they are doing. Hell, there are even some people that come across as total tool-bags on the internet, and are somewhat okay in real life.
    Put the pitchfork down, this guy hasn't done anything to burn the pinball community (except maybe their retinas).

    I have moral issues spending money with people who are known to take advantage of or scam others, regardless of it being the same business or another business with common ownership. It's quite pertinent to this discussion.

    #487 7 months ago
    Quoted from Procrastinator:

    where are those people that posted “good or bad, he is the king of marketing because you’re talking about his product”....well, here’s a reason why that isn’t always the smartest play sometimes...haha

    yep, brought a little too much attention to himself.

    #488 7 months ago
    Quoted from Shapeshifter:

    Sounds like you need New and Improved Pinstadium Fusion LED's

    ^^Best post in this thread^^

    #489 7 months ago
    Quoted from frankmac:

    Where would one even look to find Pin Stadium advertising ?

    I've seen stranger things happen on here. Nice avatar Frank.

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    #490 7 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    I have moral issues spending money with people who are known to take advantage of or scam others, regardless of it being the same business or another business with common ownership. It's quite pertinent to this discussion.

    That's totally fair, and I understand that, but what do you actually know about Scott? I don't know anything about him, but if I were basing it on two reviews from 10 years ago from people who feel they were ripped off by his service, I wouldn't be super quick to jump on the "burn Scott to the ground" bandwagon.

    Ultimately everyone votes with their wallet, and all of it is personal choice, but I would slow walk this one a bit based on 1)Who is shaking the hornets nest 2)How much I (not ralphwiggum, but you yourself) actually know about Scott.

    #491 7 months ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    but if I were basing it on two reviews from 10 years ago from people who feel they were ripped off by his service, I wouldn't be super quick to jump on the "burn Scott to the ground" bandwagon.
    .

    Agreed.

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    #492 7 months ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    That's totally fair, and I understand that, but what do you actually know about Scott? I don't know anything about him, but if I were basing it on two reviews from 10 years ago from people who feel they were ripped off by his service, I wouldn't be super quick to jump on the "burn Scott to the ground" bandwagon.
    Ultimately everyone votes with their wallet, and all of it is personal choice, but I would slow walk this one a bit based on 1)Who is shaking the hornets nest 2)How much I (not ralphwiggum, but you yourself) actually know about Scott.

    agreed

    Just putting it out there. I believe it is pertinent to the discussion and people should be able to make their decisions on where to/or not spend $$$

    #493 7 months ago

    "Darren" is Scott Helterbridle's middle name.

    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    That's totally fair, and I understand that, but what do you actually know about Scott? I don't know anything about him, but if I were basing it on two reviews from 10 years ago from people who feel they were ripped off by his service, I wouldn't be super quick to jump on the "burn Scott to the ground" bandwagon.
    Ultimately everyone votes with their wallet, and all of it is personal choice, but I would slow walk this one a bit based on 1)Who is shaking the hornets nest 2)How much I (not ralphwiggum, but you yourself) actually know about Scott.

    Agreed, and that is what I am trying to figure out. The person mentioned above has 4 aliases...that's not a good start.

    #495 7 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    Agreed, and that is what I am trying to figure out. He has 4 aliases...that's not a good start.

    Well....I believe one website says he has 4 alias' (aliai?) , we don't know if that's true which is why internet searching is so sketchy.

    #496 7 months ago

    So now some PinSiders are going to search the backgrounds of the people who sell mods/pinball stuff to us. Come on

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    #497 7 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    Just putting it out there.

    Why?

    Quoted from Whysnow:

    I believe it is pertinent to the discussion

    How?

    I am trying to follow along with this logic and I am still coming to the same dead end.

    Here is where I am at-
    A random guy on the internet sells super bright lights at a marked up price

    Almost to a T, everyone who has purchased these super bright lights sings his praises. He has literally walked on water with his customer service (even though he really didn't, people just have blind spots in their eyes from using his products)

    He has other business(es) in his life other than pinball (hard for me to believe, I know), and one of those businesses had two poor reviews from 10 years ago

    Those two reviews may (or may not) be from people that don't always make the best decisions financially, or actually understand how finances work (not stating this as fact, but it has been known to happen in that industry)

    What am I missing?
    Please tell me that Pinstadiums are made from Baby Seals, then you will have something I can actually understand.

    #498 7 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    "Darren" is Scott Helterbridle's middle name.

    Agreed, and that is what I am trying to figure out. He has 4 aliases...that's not a good start.

    I am not cool with this, anyone who intentionally tries to disguise themselves or use aliases to hide stuff in the business world bothers me a lot. One thing I can't stand is a thief and I am not saying Scott did all those things but he is sure looking guilty. I don't care if it was 10 days or 10 years ago it shows his character.

    #499 7 months ago

    I've done some digging of my own, and I think I've found out who might have placed all the ads and who keeps bumping the pinstadium thread itself.
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    #500 7 months ago
    Quoted from woody76:

    I am not cool with this, anyone who intentionally tries to disguise themselves or use aliases to hide stuff in the business world bothers me a lot. One thing I can't stand is a thief and I am not saying Scott did all those things but he is sure looking guilty. I don't care if it was 10 days or 10 years ago it shows his character.

    What is he hiding? Some people just hate their name.

    My kids are probably going to go by an alias at some point, because all three are named after Simpsons characters (True story).

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