Quoted from markmon:Why is "be nice" even a rule? How is not being nice policed? What constitutes being nice or not being nice? The concept of "be nice" is so so subjective and not specific.
Pinside rule #1: Be nice!
We expect everyone who participates on Pinside to be welcoming, friendly, and respectful on the forum. It's as simple as using common social sense and acting as if you're interacting with another Pinsider face-to-face.
It's either keep things civil or let it turn into a wretched hive of scum and villainy
But basically, it amounts to the Golden Rule and exercising some common decency.
Quoted from markmon:For example, what if someone posts incorrect information? On one hand it's a disservice to the community to not correct this. On the other hand it is not "being nice" to correct this. And if you're going to correct a fact that's wrong you shouldn't have to tip toe around in an apologetic manner in doing so.
This doesn't fall under the "Be Nice" rule. In any case, most people try to be helpful and post what they think is the correct information. Obviously, some of that information is not always entirely correct. So, someone who does know the correct information usually steps in. Or, if there is a debate on a topic of what the correct information actually is, there is a discussion, and those interested usually take it a step further and do some research on the topic, then present their findings.
It is rare that someone actually posts misinformation intentionally just to be malicious or to trick someone. Most of the time, people are honest about posting information. I don't think I've ever seen misinformation intentionally posted in any of the tech forums.
Quoted from markmon:What if you disagree with someone? Debates, even respectful ones, can feel not nice to the person losing. Are we also banning all debates?
Of course not. Debates are fine. Heated discussions can be ok too, so long as it doesn't start to get personal or nasty. However, when one person starts slinging mud, everyone else usually ends up getting muddy too if it continues.
Quoted from markmon:Its not being nice to stern or such to complain about prices or code. Is that out now? Should it even be?
People have legitimate criticisms about games and manufactures all the time. People are still free to discuss and share their opinions. But again, if it starts getting too personal or nasty, then it will be addressed in order to keep things civil.
Quoted from markmon:I'd propose that "be nice" shouldn't even be a rule. Perhaps some specific rules that are black and white and clear should replace something so ambiguous as "be nice".
Unfortunately, not every situation fits in to neat and tidy little boxes. We can't have a rule for every specific or minute instance, or even foresee every kind of situation that might arise. These rules allow some flexibility and leeway for both members (if they start coloring outside the lines) as well as moderators (if a situation doesn't fit neatly inside an established rule). This is usually where cries of moderation bias, unbalanced/unfair moderation practices arise, but honestly, the moderators are not out to get you. If everyone more or less gets along, it makes our jobs easier, and we can just enjoy the site just like the rest of you. We're just tasked to help keep the peace and to try to let everyone enjoy the site and the discussions that they participate in.
Obviously, pinball is very near and dear to many of you--and it's no different for the moderators. We wouldn't volunteer our time to help maintain the site if we didn't care a lot about pinball and the people who are in the community along side us.