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Why do we need to "be nice"?

By markmon

7 years ago


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#103 7 years ago

I agree with several people above...this is not a difficult concept, and I can't believe there is even a thread about this, let alone some level of "debate" about the meaning or intent. If you have to question what being nice is or means, perhaps you can talk to my 4-year old daughter who already has a decent grasp on the concept (and can also play pins with purpose already).

Quoted from Insane:

I personally have no issues with someone pointing out in a FS thread / ad that the price may be out of line. I think that it does a service especially for the people that may not be totally up on current prices. Maybe a noob that is looking at the ad perhaps to purchase. If you are selling, you can ask anything you want, and the market will eventually dictate if its a good price. Again, my 2 cents. Also there are ways to point out a high price without being a dick.

Almost couldn't disagree more. The problem is that most people that go into someone's FS thread and point out that the asking price isn't "to their liking" do it like a dick, a troll, or say something inappropriate. I've even seen posts in someone's FS thread like "are you serious", "for that junk" and "are you sober asking that price?". Commenting in someone's FS thread about the price could unintentionally (or even worse intentionally) dissuade a potential buyer from purchasing the pin. If somebody needs to move a pin for any reason at all, I'm not getting in the way or preventing them from selling it. I've sold some of my pins for ridiculously low prices, great prices, good prices, average market prices...and even some other pins for retail prices since being involved with LOP. And even that you can't judge, as people do. I had a Viper Night Drivin posted initially at "a retail price", and various people here "commented" on the price. I ended up selling it to a fellow Pinsider below market value, and I actually ate money on the deal. It was more important to me to get that guy his very first game, and give him a good entrance into the hobby and certainly without overpaying. And on top of eating money, I also gave the guy a set of free Convolux to spruce up the game. I've severely overpaid for some pins myself...if it was something I really wanted. Who am I, or anybody else on this site for that matter, to judge what someone else should or is willing to pay for a game? Making a comment in someone's FS thread about price, which is always negatively, also insinuates in some way that the seller is trying to get one over on someone, is a price-gouger or dishonest in some way...and that is almost never the case. Therefore, it is not nice.

I'm all about looking out for one another in this hobby, and I do often with noobs or even long time hobbyists. But I do expect people getting into this hobby to exercise at least some due diligence before spending their hard earned money, and possibly thousands of dollars. The fact that I even kept reading this thread after the first post is actually bewildering to me, given the simplistic subject matter.

Being nice is simple...it's not some difficult, needed-to-be-explained obtuse concept. And if you don't like someone's price on a game be nice...just move on like the rest of us do.

#106 7 years ago

This post / reply to Markmon was borderline feeding into negativity and was not so nice, so I removed the text and images. My apologies, because I do like this site very much and want it to be better.

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#119 7 years ago
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

The market decides what something is worth.

Or someone can use Mr. Pinball Price Guide, Boston Pinball or www.pinballprice.com. Personally, I just try to be nice like this thread suggests. If I see an ad in the marketplace, or jump into someone's FS thread and the game is way overpriced, I just mutter "eh" to myself and move on. I don't really feel the need to post "Is the cabinet filled with gold bricks also?", like I've seen before.

I never like seeing someone get "taken" either, and I'm not talking about Liam Neeson's daughter. Your opinion is well-acknowledged, read and appreciated. Thank you for posting it.

#120 7 years ago
Quoted from markmon:

or perhaps you need to go get advice from your 4 yr old daughter as well

And by the way, my daughter gives excellent advice...very simplistic and rational. I seek it from her daily. Just two months ago she explained how to more easily shoot the VUK off the left flipper to start multiball on BF to me.

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