That's called musk.

I've enjoyed this thread a bunch so don't let others get you down. Some people just don't know how to take a joke.

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and where may I find this mythical Facebook post?

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This is something I like to do with video games more than pinball.

I do like watching if I'm involved in a multiplayer game but I thought the question was are there times a person likes watching rather than playing. I only like watching pinball if it's in a tournament setting.

It's interesting how the people most uncomfortable with talking about sex and the attraction between sexes were religious people when I was growing up. It seemed that socially liberal people were the ones advocating for freedom of expression regarding images of men and women and sex. Today the reverse has happened where nearly all of the religious people I know are OK with movies and images depicting sex and the "feminists" or "SJWs" are the prudes.
I'm not a person that curses a lot. I don't parade around shirtless or like pictures of scantily clad women in my home but I will not judge people and expect them to follow the guidelines I have set for my life. I've seen enough cultures in the world to know that people will never agree on what is right and what is wrong and I don't expect them too. If Japan wants to eat horse and dolphins, I may not partake but I won't condemn them. If Colorado and Washington want to smoke marijuana, I'll pass but go right ahead. If the people next door want to never cut their grass and let their house fall apart, it's embarrassing but it's their house. I don't understand this new trend of socially bullying and harassing people who have different ideas than you do. This recreational outrage.

hmmm....

I love pinball.

I'm not a big fan of the SJW term but it's hard to think of a better one. For myself I'm OK with people not agreeing with others' ideas but it's the social attacks and attempts to ostracize and quiet opposing opinions that I don't like.

It's not guys on guys but girls on girls.

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Does this get your blood boiling?

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I laughed so hard at this image on Google.

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I did not make this but again found it on Google when I typed "gay pinball".

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That's funny. I googled gay pinball and those images popped up from the KLOV forum.

True. The hetero men are marginalized at conventions because there aren't enough girls around. They tailor the conventions for the homosexuals and women.

I just listened to a podcast from he-who-shall-not-be-named (I know I shouldn't have) and he mentioned how he has a ton of duplicate accounts and is posting every day. That's a mature response to being banned from a site.

This brought to mind the sexism in pinball thread on Tilt forums. I thought it was a good discussion but there were one or two voices that were opposing views to the majority. They weren't outright ejected but there was a little tension felt just for having a different voice. They acted like they couldn't have that discussion on pinside but it seemed like what they wanted were opinions like their own so they could pat each other on the back.

Yet here we are in a thread where a woman wanted to know if there is a correlation between guys who are into pinball and their ability to be in a relationship and the same people from tilt forums are going bonkers but they're not ejected or discouraged. One person asks for pics with guys and pinball. Another person says this thread is making fun of gay people. It seems like sex is a topic that's off limits for these people. It's weird. I like hearing opinions from all sides myself.

Levi, I would never say that but I love you more for saying it.

I understand it's a joke but it doesn't matter. People will take your post, pass it around, and click their tongues and wag their fingers. Jokes don't exist in their world.

I'll recap for you.

I don't know if Trunchbull was joking or not but I and others decided to throw a few jokes to include his side. None were malicious which removes homophobia of which I think you need to look up the definition. None were made mocking gay people. He wanted to be included so I complied.

I didn't mistake sexism or homophobia with prudishness. If people are upset over scantily clad men or women, if they are upset over double entendres and sex then they are prudish. Wouldn't you agree?

I found the video linked in the article very interesting. A man from an organization that fights for individual rights in education noted how for most of his career (he started in '99) he was fighting administrators on the argument of free speech but for the last 2 or 3 years it has been the students that he has to fight for free speech rights. A lot of comedians have said they won't play campuses any more or have had trouble with students like Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Maher.

Well they were probably letting the ladies take care of themselves. I've read some comments where some women seem to be resistant to help. One person in the Tilt Forums took exception to someone holding the door open for them.

It's very true that a lot of the political correctness and easily offended people come from the U.S. I'm not sure of the right term. It's almost Xenophobic (?) to push those agendas into other countries that don't have problems with confederate flags or slang words. They have meaning in the U.S. but the world doesn't care. The only thing similar I can think of is how Germany has Nazi symbols banned but in the U.S. it doesn't matter.

Obviously you should read up on the history of political correctness. Just because you can't draw the connection to politics doesn't mean there isn't one.

"The notion of political correctness has ignited controversy across the land. And although the movement arises from the laudable desire to sweep away the debris of racism and sexism and hatred, it replaces old prejudice with new ones. It declares certain topics off-limits, certain expression off-limits, even certain gestures off-limits."

This is an early description of "political correctness" when the term was just beginning to gain popularity.

I took the time to read an article on political correctness, it's history and it's use to today. I don't watch any political talk shows or listen to pundits on the radio but after reading, it does seem that a lot of political debate regarding political correctness today seemed misinformed and generally used as a way to use derogatory terms or views without getting punished. Pez, if you were referring to those uses of the term "political correctness", I can definitely see where you are coming from.

I guess by culture you mean the U.S. right because other developed countries have different standards. It's hard to tell with blanket statements what you mean.

I believe in treating with respect. I believe in having a controlled temper and not calling people names. I believe in letting people be whatever they want to be. I think you believe in these too but your posts come off very confrontational and pretentious. "the truth is our culture really is overflowing with bigotry." This statement is just not true. If you believe that it is where you live, it may be time to move.

Are these "endless stories of being slighted or discriminated against on a daily basis in ways both overt and subtle" similar to being just plain insulted? Because that happens. People call each other SOB or MFer or say F*** You. Will you try to eliminate these insults as well? There's a lot of mocking of Christians or Muslims or anybody who believes in a religion. Will you take up their cause when they are offended? You're starting to sound like this fella...

I don't believe you're making this statement to educate a person. You're making it to demean and belittle a person that hurled an insult in your direction. If he would have called you a fanny, would you be this upset? Did you even know that fanny is another way of saying pussy?

It's an interesting tactical response to a person that called you a name but it's just a fancy way of saying...

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Thanks for both of those vids, Art. They were very good.

There you go putting words in my mouth. I never said that it would be less insulting. I asked if it made a difference to you because in our "culture" fanny means butt which isn't a reference to a women's genitalia. But if the person didn't mean it as butt but as a women's vulva and you didn't understand it because you didn't know fanny meant that till you Googled it 30 minutes ago, would you still be upset over "sexism"?Do you get upset over people calling you a "dick" since it demeans male genitalia?

I think you need to watch George Carlin and listen to the part where the list of words that offends you is different from the list of words of every other person and it changes every day.

Not really because you stated this...

You may think that British culture is the same as American culture but you are wrong. Do you think black brits are offended by the Confederate Flag? Do you think they know who General Lee is? What do you think racism even looks like in Britain? Here's a hint it's very different from here in the U.S, as are the words that are offensive between you and every one else.

You should been there in the beginning when we were formed from ooze and one person said to the other, "hey you're different."

You wanted to start the quibbling by saying pussy was a sexist remark instead of what it was intended to be, an insulting remark.

Again you seem to want to look at things from your place of privilege instead of trying to see things from perspectives around the world. The confederate flag is another interesting example. Dukes of Hazzard is a show that is broadcast in many countries all over the world so many people are familiar with the car that has a confederate flag on the roof. I have heard quite a few foreigners who enjoyed the show and were fans of the car but had no understanding of what that flag means in the U.S. Are you going to judge them and shame them for owning a car or memorabilia with the flag on there in this country or their own?

I am in no way endorsing or judging the use of the confederate flag.

My point is your overlooking real problems by focusing on small incidental things. Instead of teaching, your preaching and in the process driving people further away instead allowing them to learn.

You can dismiss my question. Maybe you're starting to learn that words' meanings aren't absolute.