Quoted from V4Vendetta:how much are NIB stern pro going for these days?
You can find them for less than $5,600, but that's what they'll advertise, just talk to a few distributors.
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Quoted from V4Vendetta:how much are NIB stern pro going for these days?
You can find them for less than $5,600, but that's what they'll advertise, just talk to a few distributors.
Quoted from TheLaw:7.5k now, at least Wonka was.
Plus shipping, at least shipping its included with Stern. Stern Pro for $5500 shipped vs Wonka standard for $7800 shipped is a no brainer for me. I only have 2 Sterns in my lineup but they make great products.
The only JJP I've liked is WoZ, mainly for theme, rules are alright. I sold my NIB Wonka after 3 weeks(terrible game) luckily for minimal loss as the demand was still high. Maintenance on both has been worse than the 6 NIB Sterns I've owned before them. Unfortunately Toy Story is my grail theme and JJP has the license, hopefully it's not like Wonka.
Quoted from BigT:I read this and agree and also disagree. I really like Willy Wonka, one of my favorite movies!! I am very tired of the Jurassic Park movies, they have been around for decades.
When I have played Wonks, I was expecting Hobbit theming with Pats design. It missed IMOP. I played JP with no expectation and was amazed. At the barcade I will play JP all day, WONKA not so much.
I can’t explain why I like JP more, but it is definitely not because of the title.
Wonka is too generic, nothing exciting or new. The code feels like a jumble.
Quoted from jimwe5t:Interesting viewpoint. However, in reality:
Stern Pro $5500 equals a JJP Standard $7500
Stern Pre $7500 equals a JJP LE $9500 (I know the name LE is used by JJP, but you and I know, 5,000 of anything in pinball is not really limited)
Stern LE $9000 equals a JJP CE $12500 (both machines are truly limited to 500 units that’s it and is their top of the line offering.)
People may say one has more than the other, but buyers don’t associate bullet points with fun. Bullet points do not keep resale values high, fun gaming experience does. That’s why a Stern Pro with less, but has a top tier IP, will always sell better than an equivalent JJP standard even though some think it has more. I would argue that WW, mech wise is about the same as Jurassic Park Pro feature wise. One example: WW has 2 ramps. JP2 has 4 ramps.
JJP machines are priced $2k too high against their competition. WW is pretty slim in mechs, compared to DI for example. JJP is beginning to see the light, but price is still the major issue.
Add $300 to the JJPs for shipping. Wonka has removed mechs for the standard, Stern Pros have removed mechs. Pro to Standard is the correct comparison.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:No, its not. Because Stern Pros today are practically like home editions and JJP Standards - BOM and features wise - are usually better than Stern Premiums.
lol, not even close.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:The comparison is JJP standard vs Stern premium and JJP LE vs Stern LE as those games are around the same price.
I agree they're similar prices, but you need to compare similar features. The JJP Standard set by Wonka is similar to Stern Pros, JJP LEs compare to Premiums feature wise. Pros and Standards lack mechs and gameplay items.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Yet a JJP standard such as Wonka SE has more features in it then Stern premiums.
That's funny
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