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Why did pinball companies make EM and SS versions of the same machine?

By calsheimer

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Have been doing some searching and haven't found a great answer yet. During the transition from EM to SS machines, I know most manufactures made both EM and SS versions of the same machine (i.e. Joker Poker, Mata Hari, Evel Knievel, etc.).

Does anyone know for sure what the reason for this approach was? For example, was it because some of their buyers at the time weren't fully on board with the new SS tech? Because they needed time to convert their manufacturing processes? Ability to offer the same game at a different price point? Something else?

#2 1 year ago

They had the EM game and were transitioning over to SS. So they'd take existing EMs and modify them to be run on the SS platform. Some they already had a bunch of EMs and made a few SS versions like Bow and Arrow. Other times it seemed like they really wanted to make the SS version but probably made a few EMs just to compare like Evel Knievel.

#3 1 year ago

Operators didn’t know how to maintain and service SS so could kill demand. Also not clear if players would be ok with the play experience changing to more digital (sound, score reels, etc)

Huge transition for an industry to make. It was before my time, but had to be a scary one (alas, justifiably for folks like Gottleib)

#4 1 year ago
Quoted from calsheimer:

Does anyone know for sure what the reason for this approach was? For example, was it because some of their buyers at the time weren't fully on board with the new SS tech?

That's pretty much the answer. I was in the business back then and saw the whole thing.
.................David Marston

#5 1 year ago

That was a whole new technology. Boards will eliminate service problems. ( HaHa ).

Operators were slow to adapt to new technology, especially since this was as video games ( low maintenance ) were gaining traction on the industry.

Once operators saw what the solid state pins were earning compared to the EMs, they wanted the new solid state pins.

LTG : )

#6 1 year ago

thanks for all the great answers all - much appreciated!

#7 1 year ago

I think some national markets were more conservative and stuck with EMs longer. It’s very rare to see the EM version of Gottlieb‘s first solid state games in classified ads here in Germany, but go to Leboncoin.fr and type in Gottlieb, and there will usually be at least one EM Cleopatra or an Eye of the Tiger for sale.

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