Am I the only one who thinks the speakers panels Stern is using with their new LCD look like total garbage? They dont put any art on them any more, just a big black box under your translite. They couldnt even put the plaque center on the bezel either. Look at GB, LOOK AT KISS! Whats the deal? Why is no one upset about the huge price increases and the lack of finish? Why do you have to get a SUPER LE in order to get any art in this area? Seems like it should be stock. Is this an "add-on" now?

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Which is black when the game is off. Making the big black box under the translite even bigger and blacker.

I saw a few pics of people with them in their line ups and I just think they stick out like a soar thumb.

Yes. Yes we do.

There was just a guy in the Alien thread complaining about the black boxness of the cab. People care. Maybe not on location, but when you have a line up at home, you want your $8000 toy to look as sweet as possible.

Weve got a Kiss LE at my office. I dont include it, I bought it for my boss. Dont even get me started on Kiss. I praised it here lol.

I am a potential SW purchaser, but I cant afford the $15,000 SLE or whatever they are going to charge for it. Id like to see some value in my purchase.

Thats pretty much my market at this point. They priced me out. Id sell them all for a really cool SW pin though, but I dont think any one but JJP could pull that off.

Use of word "retard" classy.

I LOVE the jjp design. I love the small glass, and the LCD. I think its beautiful what they have done. I havent played DI yet, but I had a WOZ for a while and Ive played TH. Love it. The whole machine is built and designed to look clean. I appreciate that.

I have NOT opened the speaker panel yet. Super ugly placement of the lock though, smack dab in the middle of the giant ugly speaker panel. Great design.

Who cares if I dont own one. Am I not entitled to an opinion because of that? Am I not buying one because of the long list of issues they consistently have? Yes.

I was comparing the art on GB's speaker panel to the lack of it now.

As for the complaining about the complainers. This really does seem to be more and more a rich people hobby. If their $8000 toy doesnt meet their standards, they'll just spend MORE money to get it the way they want. I cant wrap my mind around that. Thats a lot of money to me, maybe not others. I want the whole package to be complete and well thought out for my money.

Well you didnt get the full featured pin that was originally designed. You got a stripped down lower tier machine.

Its not like comparing a fully loaded car to a bone stock car. The car still drives the same way, it just doesnt have the bells and whistles.

With the pins, the whole thing is changed. The geometry, the rules. You are missing a whole upper playfield. That would drive me nuts. No way I could get a pro of a stern ever.

You enjoy being a curmudgeon with your buddy Levi.

Well the TRUTH is that they changed something major and forgot how to make it good looking. They removed art from an area where it was previously.

The logic is that you would think a company who is basically building a giant art project would look at things like this and say "hey, something is missing here".

I dunno, just my thoughts. This is my first on fire post! LOL. Complaints get the clicks I guess.

Batman played a lot of guitars back then. It was a phase he grew out of.

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Stern didnt think so.

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All my DMD gottliebs have beautiful speaker panels......