I like JJP flippers as they come out of the box. Never had any problems making shots. At least with DI and GNR.

Are you a Stern fan? That’s not a criticism and I didn’t say fanboy. People used to hate Stern flippers. Times change. Stern flippers are kind of like rockets.

It’s like Jazz or Bluegrass or Heavy Metal. None are wrong, just different.

“Most manufacturers” do not do this. Bally did not (remember the coils you had to physically change?). AP does not. Multimorphic does not. I’ve only had 1 Spooky game but i think they load coils as powerful as is needed. JJP follows the B/W method (and they use Williams parts). I would imagine Stern powers their coils strong as possible to avoid too much variation in parts

I upped my GNR flipper power just a tad and I’m happy with the results.

I like the feel of both jjp and stern flippers. To answer your question, they are set at the factory setting where they can make every shot, yet not too strong to where they will be strong enough to cause more likely damage at faster speeds. I typically turn mine up a notch or two, and they are plenty powerful, and fast. I think they feel perfect for jjp style games

They've never said, to my knowledge. It must be a conscious thing though at this point.

They also have really weak slingshots. They're the only coils on the 20v circuit.

My bet is its a combination of wanting to me more family friendly, relaxing home games, and technical limitations (they overheat very easily at higher settings)

I've honestly never noticed it. However, GnR plunger? Good lord that is one limp mechanism.

The flippers do feel very odd for sure. My beef, however, is the sling "power." Like, don't even bother with putting kickers in there why don't ya.

I agree with the others ... likely to minimize damage and wear. I personally love the feel of them and you can crank them up, but I agree the factory setting is too low. I have my WOZ and Wonka both turned up a couple of levels (but nowhere near max).

I also hate that shot the plunger gives. I feel like when you plunge the ball it needs to feel good, even if you hit the skill shot it’s still underwhelming.

Now that is weird.

I don’t buy JJP pins anymore cause their flippers sucks and their themes suck and their prices suck.
But yes their flippers feel like slapping a limp dick across a hot hookers face. “Such a waste”

JJP machines flipper strength is set low for 2 things. 1st The prefer pitch of the machine and 2nd they are using the equivalent to williams blue coil which is the strongest coil williams ever used. Or it could be JJP mess up by not having the hold wind powering up with the flip wind can cause weakness too.

I’d say it’s more Stern flippers are a lot snappier than everyone else and have always been snappier since flippers went solid state controlled. People are most familiar with Stern’s feel after being the industry leader for twenty years.

Williams had 20 volt slings too. JJP flippers are higher volt than Stern.

And how much does that even matter when everything can be PWM for more granular control?

Had a bunch of diff machines and noticed that my Halloween spooky flippers are beasts. They have to be as snappy as stern.

Stock JJP's are far weaker than any 90s game. It's not stern that's the outlier
Williams slings have been 50v since the 90s. JJP uses 50+v for everything except the slings. And as you say, the high voltage isn't comparable, since both Stern and JJP PWM their flippers.

Apparently you missed the point of the skill shot. No need for a heavy spring when the ball only has to travel less than 12”.

At the factory their current might be higher than yours. So if yours is lower, they will be different from what they were set at in the factory.

Easy for you to go into Settings - Coils - and see the coils to your liking.

I think JJP flipper strength is about right. Stern's are too powerful. Stern aims for the casual audience and kids who get impressed by whacking it around at high speed. JJP aims more at serious players who will take more time to catch and control.

Spooky's flippers are almost as snappy as Stern's, in fact I thought Rick and Morty was a Stern the first time I saw it.

American's flippers are the ones that are weak trash, although I've only played a couple on location that were fairly worn.

You're not on their payroll anymore; no need to keep up with this old wives' tale.

I don’t have a super current stern but had a tron recently and my spooky Halloween is snappier and shooting airballs everywhere.

I am going to install one of these on my GNR slingshot and see how much better it gets. I will also take temps to make sure it doesn't catch fire.

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