It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why people are saying things like...

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Simply put, AC/DC has very few audio cues. Players have relied on audio clues for so many years, they've become part of the background. Something that's expected. A player does something good, the game makes a sound confirming to the player that he has made a good shot. That's how it's always been. Sure, the DMD also gives the players feedback, but the player can't look up very much. Audio cues are way more important. Now that AC/DC has taken most all of them away (or made them extremely subtle), people are confused. Now the only clues are the lights on the playfield.

For everyone, the learning curve on this game is longer. Even good players are taking longer to figure it out. A top 20 player recently told me he's shooting the bell with a backhand more after seeing me do it. And I'm not even a top 500 player. For some players, they will never get used to it. Those folks have to have the audio confirmation or it didn't happen.

To me, this is a good thing on a number of levels. Steve and Lyman have rewritten what a music pin should be. They (music pins) should've always been only about the music. Why on earth did it take this long to figure it out? The longer learning curve is awesome. Great for ops. While I enjoy games like IM and Tron, I figured out strategies for those games relatively quick. I still have a lot to learn on AC/DC and I've spent dozens of hours on both a pro and a premium. Monster learning curve.

People have suggested online for years that games need to 'teach' more to get the video game aged folks more up to speed. Now they've taken away a major tool from the player and people like it. Following this logic, games should get harder and harder in the near future. What if the next game didn't have any sounds OR lights? Can't wait!

I don't think so. One clue is that Instant Info gives way more info than other Lyman games. Want to know how many VIP passes you have left? II will tell you. Want to know how many balls you have locked on Spidey? II won't tell you on that game. They've taken away from the player in one area and given back in another. Not an even trade, but I'm not complaining.

It steers the player in the direction that scores the most points. Nothing wrong with that. If you want to reach Encore (and score even more points), you need to completely ignore the flashing lights. Complete song requests, switch songs when jukebox is lit. That's it. Ignore the flashing lights.

It's not an easy game for casual players. The theme (music) is the draw for them. The louder it's turned up, the more it earns.

I nominate SolarRide:

Can MC get his head around all that? And SR doesn't even own one!

I caught the tail end of this and his song jackpot was 179M and change. Then when the game was over, it gave him song champion (along with a few other things) for only ~44M. Looked like the same jackpot to me. The multiplier was the only thing missing.

Because it wasn't a huge game (he wasn't familiar with this particular game), I think he's right.

But he got his initials up for Song Bonus Champion with the exact same jackpot, minus the multiplier. If it counts the jackpot, it should count the multiplier too.

You're right. I really need to get one. Bad game to learn only on location.

Maybe he could add some text to distinguish the two? (when the jackpot is collected) Something like: "4X SONG BONUS!" below the actual jackpot value? Or maybe he just figures we should just know (learn) these things.

Considering how hard it is to reach Encore, I vote for initials for both too.

I don't understand why some peoe are confused. It says "Song Jackpot Champion" not "Song Bonus Champion"

They are both the same value. Which of the two pics below is the song bonus and which is the song jackpot?

Songbonus.jpg Songjackpot.jpg

WRONG! The math doesn't add up. Check it yourself.

Actually, you're right. Point being, it's easy to confuse the two. Especially when you don't own one.

Do you know why the math is slightly off?

It's not. I just wanted to see how long I could keep you in suspense. Looks like right around 7 hours.

If you get how all the supers work (loops/lanes/targets/combos), I'm sure many would love to hear about it. I get the lanes and targets, but I'm not real clear on loops and combos yet. I also know how to switch between them, but you might want to go over that too.

No. Just you. Looks like it worked. d