Why a TAF Remake Would Sell Very Well - Poll

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Why a TAF Remake Would Sell Very Well - Poll


By rogerdodger

78 days ago



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    “Why a TAF Remake Would Sell Very Well - Poll”

    • I don't have a TAF and would buy a remake 135 votes
      37%
    • I already have a TAF but would still buy a remake 15 votes
      4%
    • I already have a TAF, so wouldn't buy a remake 74 votes
      20%
    • I have no interest in TAF 143 votes
      39%

    (367 votes)

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    #101 73 days ago
    Quoted from jkleinnd:

    I hate the remakes because they affect the value of the classic originals, and I hope it stops before every B/W gets a clone.

    I totally get this..I gave up, sold all my cq's. got more then enough money for the remakes now. (Whenever they make the ones I want) 1st was mbr LE
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    #102 73 days ago

    If a remake somehow makes you feel like your MM, AFM, MB or maybe even someday TAF is less special maybe that's a personal issue.

    #103 73 days ago

    Remakes will lower the cost of used TAF so even if you are fine buying a players condition pin, it should be cheaper across the board after the remake.

    Only people who should care are owners who want to sell. If it’s a keeper than it really shouldn’t matter what it’s worth.

    IMO.

    I’m kind of meh on MB and CC and CV and TotAN but I’ll buy a TAF remake.

    #104 73 days ago

    I am a collector, but not for value, only for play. If a machine wasn’t fun, why own it? I bought my Pinbot, Bride and FGy because they were fun to play. Now I did get a flyer, a spare NOS pf, NOS translite (signed by B.O.), a NOS spiral ramp, a target carrier, a NOS visor, a spare NOS plastics set, NOS drop tagets decals, I have the sticker patches and their plastic counterparts, but I am missing the key fob. I have a poster of the BG. For Bride I have a NOS Heart ramp signed by Python A., and a flyer, and a nice clear resin cast paper weight Diamond BOP distributor promo. For Family guy, I got a topper, a NOS pf, a set of all the character toys, a plastics set, and a sticker sheet. Now did I collect all this to increase the value of my machines? Nope. I came across most of this stuff at Pin Expo, friendly distributors cleaning out their back rooms, and casual talk amoungst players, and people offering stuff they have just sitting around. I bought all the extra parts as insurance against breakage, and wear, and it has worked out so far, nothing has broke. Now with pf’s getting rediculously expensive, I might sell them and use the money on a new machine. How much are they getting for NOS Pinbot pf’s? Yes, some of us have been doing this a little while

    #105 73 days ago
    Quoted from Bublehead:

    I am a collector, but not for value, only for play. If a machine wasn’t fun, why own it? I bought my Pinbot, Bride and FGy because they were fun to play. Now I did get a flyer, a spare NOS pf, NOS translite (signed by B.O.), a NOS spiral ramp, a target carrier, a NOS visor, a spare NOS plastics set, NOS drop tagets decals, I have the sticker patches and their plastic counterparts, but I am missing the key fob. I have a poster of the BG. For Bride I have a NOS Heart ramp signed by Python A., and a flyer, and a nice clear resin cast paper weight Diamond BOP distributor promo. For Family guy, I got a topper, a NOS pf, a set of all the character toys, a plastics set, and a sticker sheet. Now did I collect all this to increase the value of my machines? Nope. I came across most of this stuff at Pin Expo, friendly distributors cleaning out their back rooms, and casual talk amoungst players, and people offering stuff they have just sitting around. I bought all the extra parts as insurance against breakage, and wear, and it has worked out so far, nothing has broke. Now with pf’s getting rediculously expensive, I might sell them and use the money on a new machine. How much are they getting for NOS Pinbot pf’s? Yes, some of us have been doing this a little while

    What’s that have to do with anything we are discussing?

    #106 73 days ago
    Quoted from rai:

    What’s that have to do with anything we are discussing?

    ROFL

    #107 73 days ago

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    #108 73 days ago
    Quoted from rai:

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    yep, my bad...been gone for awhile

    #109 73 days ago

    ...UH

    That was pretty damn funny.

    #110 73 days ago

    LMAO... that was really good...

    #111 73 days ago
    Quoted from ShinyBall:

    yep, my bad...been gone for awhile

    Sorry that wasn’t directed at your post.

    #112 73 days ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Sorry that wasn’t directed at your post.

    Ha..I got that..NP, I was referring to what you were saying about the other post.

    #113 73 days ago

    IDK why I keep checking this topic, I can't afford even a TAF project let alone a re-make.

    #114 73 days ago
    Quoted from Atari_Daze:

    IDK why I keep checking this topic, I can't afford even a TAF project let alone a re-make.

    A TAF remake would presumably drive down prices on project machines at least a bit, so there's hope!

    #115 73 days ago

    It will sell if made. I'm guessing it will sell more than all the other remakes combined. Hey, just guessing though: not willing to bet money

    Personally, I would love to see this happen as I have missed my TAF since I sold it 12 years ago. Yeah, I know, I could have re-bought it since then because they do come up for sale at regular intervals, but the right one at the right time and place has eluded me.

    Now I think I'm just going to hold out and take a wait-and-see approach on the remake.

    Terry

    #116 73 days ago

    Not an Addams fan but this is something I'd like to see remade.
    TAF with new lighting effects, XXL-Display with enhanced graphics and new sound would surely attract lots of customers.
    I wonder if they had access to the original voice recordings for better quality.

    #117 73 days ago

    I think a Twilight Zone would sell better, plus they could make the Black and White trim option! CGC would sell out so very quickly.

    #118 72 days ago

    captain-flint, not certain CGC would take on TZ so soon, they like their $6K,$7K,$8K pricing structure and there is absolutely no way in hell they will take on TZ’s BOM at those price points. TAF BOM fits closer to those pp’s so I expect it to be in the front of TZ. Still all speculation though...

    #119 72 days ago
    Quoted from Captain-Flint:

    I think a Twilight Zone would sell better, plus they could make the Black and White trim option! CGC would sell out so very quickly.

    TZ is my favorite game but disagree. TAF appeals to a wider audience. I bet a lot of non-pinheads would buy TAF where TZ is more for the serious pinhead. Both would look amazing with upgrades to lighting, trim, and playfield toys.

    #120 72 days ago
    Quoted from pinballlife:

    It will sell if made. I'm guessing it will sell more than all the other remakes combined. Hey, just guessing though: not willing to bet money
    Personally, I would love to see this happen as I have missed my TAF since I sold it 12 years ago. Yeah, I know, I could have re-bought it since then because they do come up for sale at regular intervals, but the right one at the right time and place has eluded me.
    Now I think I'm just going to hold out and take a wait-and-see approach on the remake.
    Terry

    I couldn't agree more, Terry. Out of the 100 or more pins I've restored over the years, MB was #1, AFM was #2 and TAF was #3. We also have a local retailer that's been selling games for years and TAF is BY FAR the most in demand title they've ever had.

    #121 72 days ago
    Quoted from rogerdodger:

    Hi Guys:
    There has been some chatter recently about the possibility that a TAF remake will be the next release from CGC. Even though I have owned (and sold) 3 TAFs in the past, I would buy a remake in a heartbeat.
    Even though the original sold over 20K units, here's why I think a remake would be a great success.
    I would imagine that the majority of TAFs out there are well worn but they still fetch very good money so, clearly, it is a very desirable pin to own.
    If there were a remake, even those who currently have a nice TAF would want a remake (that brand new feeling, with all the bells and whistles) and would then sell their old TAF (at much reduced prices, due to the remake) to others who would like to own a TAF but can't afford the remake prices.
    I somewhat liken this to new cars. There are enough people who change their cars every few years for the latest model of the car they already have, with the new car smell and all the latest bells & whistles. Their old car is then recycled to the ones who can't afford a new car. No difference, really.
    Just my opinion, so no flames, please.

    Here's why I think you're wrong.

    Unit-wise, I think that's the least plausible argument you can make. CGC has been focusing on the low number WPC95 games right now. I'd expect the 4th game to be CC with completed code or BBB, both of which lead the polls on the thread about the #4 CGC game.
    Fair enough, TAFs may be beaten up, but they make excellent project pins. I bought mine dirt cheap, but it was terrible. I bought most assemblies new, cleaned what I couldn't buy, and fixed anything that needed fixing. CPR and Mirco just did a run of TAF playfields, that was one of the factors that led to my purchase of TAF.
    I don't think there's much evidence for downward pressure on prices despite the release of remake games. I'm in the market for a Medieval Madness and would buy anything under 6k (does happen rarely). I've been going through listings and don't see anything below 8.5k, and not much below 9k. Even the occasional pinside listing in the US oscillates around 9k.

    #122 71 days ago
    Quoted from pinballlife:

    It will sell if made. I'm guessing it will sell more than all the other remakes combined. Hey, just guessing though: not willing to bet money
    Personally, I would love to see this happen as I have missed my TAF since I sold it 12 years ago. Yeah, I know, I could have re-bought it since then because they do come up for sale at regular intervals, but the right one at the right time and place has eluded me.
    Now I think I'm just going to hold out and take a wait-and-see approach on the remake.
    Terry

    Terry
    How about an all Black and White Addams Family!!!!!!!

    #123 71 days ago

    Ahhh. If only Williams/Bally would stop making silly slot machines and re-enter the hobby at such a glorious time where people are debating whether a game they made 20,000 of, from a movie 27 years ago, will be remade.

    One thing's for sure, it would throw everyone for a loop, including Stern. I still think Pin2k is underrated and that they were onto something, almost 20 years later, it was way ahead of it's time.

    #124 71 days ago

    I think I’ll start saving for one.. and if not maybe a project will be affordable by then.

    #125 71 days ago

    Bring on BBBr

    #126 71 days ago

    Interesting to see TAF on more Pinsider's wishlists than even MB.
    Wally

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    #127 71 days ago

    I’d most likely buy one, but I’m not in any hurry because I just bought 4 new pins in the past 12 months so I’m kinda in a wait mode anyhow. Glad it was MB now because I don’t want that.

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    #128 56 days ago

    TAF, TZ, TOM you can pretty much bank on those machines getting remade in the near future and YES they will sell well. CGC is remaking the top games for a reason

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    #129 56 days ago

    Not a prayer of TZ being remade.

    As has been covered many times:

    Enormous BoM.
    Huge numbers made (15k).
    Many in reasonable to excellent condition.
    A good quality machine is ~4000 in Europe. Player's, ~3500. Beater, ~2750-3000. Really good restoration, ~5000-6000. Super high end, a bit more. They're hardly the most expensive machine in the US, either. That does not say remake.
    Another machine, like MB, where you have to pay two sets of license fees and get two sets of approvals.

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