Quoted from TheLaw:How many employees do they have ?
Judging by the pictures of the new building. I'd say more than a few, 6 to 10 wouldn't surprise me. Plus the original family members. And they use them quite effectively. At some point during their shift they change to other tasks.
LTG : )
Quoted from Shapeshifter:Gottlieb were the kings of the 1950's, 60's and 70's.
Maybe the 70s, but it would be hard to argue Gottlieb not being #1 in the
50s and 60s, (and really, a good chunk of the 70s). I have to give Gottlieb
the #1 All-Around..
Quoted from John_I:EM: Gottlieb
SS: Bally and Classic Stern
Alpha Numeric: Williams System 11
DMD 1991-1999: Williams/Bally
DMD/LCD 2000-Present: Stern
I agree with this completely
Of course who am I lol.
Quoted from John_I:EM: Gottlieb
SS: Bally and Classic Stern
Alpha Numeric: Williams System 11
DMD 1991-1999: Williams/Bally
DMD/LCD 2000-Present: Stern
Exact same list I was thinking. But, it's Gottlieb as #1 overall for being the best, the longest. I'd give them 30 years as king. 50's 60's and 70's EM's. Yeah, yeah I know all the modern Stern and Williams/Bally fanboys are gonna say how great their games are and I agree they are "now" better games. However Williams/Bally only ran #1 for 10 years and Stern I would only say their first 12 years. After that their games, well you know the story.
Gottlieb made the most reliable games during the EM era, and although their DMD games may have less appealing themes or gameplay, in term of mechanical reliability they probably were even better than Bally/Williams at that time. At least that what operators kept telling me. Early SS years Bally would get my vote. DMD era has to be Bally/Williams as they even topped quality, creativity and gameplay, even for many years after they quit making games. These days it appears JJP and Chicago Gaming are delivering both in quality and quantity.
Quoted from TheLaw:THere are only 9 spots for choices so you have to leave some out. And let's be honest, more people would claim Sega over the 1 lone vote Zac would get from you
but you know the irony is, that zaccaria produced more games than Sega and 3 of the people in the list combined.
and in all honesty. Sega really has a poor good to shit ratio. Probably the worst of anyone. They really only have 2 great games in their catalogue and 3 others that are fairly good, but could be considered DE titles. Out of all DMD manufacturers. Sega is the weakest link.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:Out of all DMD manufacturers. Sega is the weakest link.
This is a very true statement.
A 3 horse race, each had their era of dominance. If you go strictly by the amount of time that dominance lasted then Gottlieb wins, if you look at who brought pinball into the SS age, then Bally, and of course in the modern era it was Williams who set the standard.
A 3 way tie may be closest to the truth!!
The votes don't lie and the action is heating up here at the Pinside World Cup! Williams is way out on top right now followed by Bally, there's a fierce race for 3rd between Gottlieb and Stern. Jersey Jack sitting pretty in 5th and hammering it out for the 6th position, its a 3 horse race between Capcom, Dutch Pinball and Spooky Pinball!
Quoted from gmkalos:The votes don't lie
...its a 3 horse race between Capcom, Dutch Pinball and Spooky Pinball!
By having Dutch pinball in the running against Capcom or Spooky tells me the numbers are stupid.
Quoted from TheLaw:By having Dutch pinball in the running against Capcom or Spooky tells me the numbers are stupid.
There's only 2-3 votes for each of them, remember you only get to vote once! But with almost 300 in votes now it's interesting to see how dedicated people are to their favorite manufacturer...I feel like I'm at a Nascar race! lol
And is this not totally reveling the true pecking order of these pinball companies! If this topic stays open for a while and even 1/4 of the pinsiders vote on this it will be so interesting to see where pinball enthusiasts hearts lie!
Quoted from modfather:What Bally games would be considered great ? AFM....what else ?
During the Midway years...a lot of good ones, TAF being largest production of all time
The Addams Family
Cirqus Voltaire
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Safe Cracker
Scared Stiff
The Shadow
Theatre of Magic
Twilight Zone
World Cup Soccer
Quoted from John_I:EM: Gottlieb
SS: Bally and Classic Stern
Alpha Numeric: Williams System 11
DMD 1991-1999: Williams/Bally
DMD/LCD 2000-Present: Stern
almost spot on
EM: Gottlieb (honorable mention to williams woodrails)
SS : Zaccaria
Alpha numeric: Williams and honorable mention to early DE
DMD: B/W
PB2K: Williams
Post 1999: Stern
...there is no Bally/Williams there just Williams, Bally folded Williams bought them in 1988. I love Bally too, I know. If you've worked on any Bally DMD you can tell there more Williams like than Bally!
Quoted from CaptainNeo:SS : Zaccaria
I am a big Zac fan as well, they produced great games, but if I had to keep one pin for the early 80's it would rather be a Bally (Centaur or Medusa).
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Take a wild guess who I voted for...
I'll bite.... Williams? Cause that is who I voted for.
Quoted from jlm33:I am a big Zac fan as well, they produced great games, but if I had to keep one pin for the early 80's it would rather be a Bally (Centaur or Medusa).
for me it would be Zankor.
I proud to say I voted for Bally
Great Bally documentary...
https://vimeo.com/19585210
To be the greatest is a tall task. But I can only think of one company that spent over a half century of innovation, and trying to improve pinball every step of the way. And hired and employed all the best people available for the job. That list of men is staggering.
Quoted from Lepus-rabbit:For me would have to be gottlieb, having invented flippers !
Shortly thereafter the designer Harry Mabs left and went to work for Williams, which started a 50 year run of hiring most of the best design, programming, and art talent this industry has known as they became available. Some of who are still tops in the industry today. As I said, that list of men is staggering.
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