Westchase, FL
Just listed today. However, the IP address says Florida?? WTF? It says Chicago on the listing 
Anyone?
Good price though at $9,300.
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Someone please explain to me why anyone would spend 10,000 on the le when you can get a premium for 2,500 less and other than some side art and trans light it's the same game. Yes, I know it's an investment. If you truly feel this way then you are a poser, not a true pinhead. No false metal.
People in this hobby are collectors and it's limited. Is it really worth $3000 more? no but the premium will never raise in value as they can produce it as long as they want, where as the LE might. If you plan to keep the game forever then price doesn't matter.
Quoted from eggbert52:Just seems like a scam that's all.
It's not a scam I'm guessing he put Chicago because it will ship from there.
Ottawa, ON
Quoted from mrgone:All good answers to my question. I guess then I'm a player, not a collector.
you`re not a sucker. flippers need suckers to survive. suckers thrive on hype that flippers provide.
Quoted from mrgone:Someone please explain to me why anyone would spend 10,000 on the le when you can get a premium for 2,500 less and other than some side art and trans light it's the same game. Yes, I know it's an investment. If you truly feel this way then you are a poser, not a true pinhead. No false metal.
Why would anyone spend hundreds of thousands on original artwork when you can get a copy that looks just as good for much less? Why spend thousands more on one sportscar when there are equal or better performing sportcars for so much less? Why would anyone spend hundreds or thousands more on a prototype pin when you can get the main run edition for much less? Why buy a Harley Davidson when you can buy a better performing Honda that looks like a HD for less? If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.
Quoted from Ed_in_Texas:Why would anyone spend hundreds of thousands on original artwork when you can get a copy that looks just as good for much less? Why spend thousands more on one sportscar when there are equal or better performing sportcars for so much less? Why would anyone spend hundreds or thousands more on a prototype pin when you can get the main run edition for much less? Why buy a Harley Davidson when you can buy a better performing Honda that looks like a HD for less? If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.
ed, if you could, try and explain how exactly perceived value and product hype effects the suckers proclivity to do the wrong thing at the worst possible time? i am just trying to understand how the suckers mind operates because it is a recipe for failure. you seem well versed in the suckers mentality but can't put it in words.
lets face it, going through life a sucker quite frankly, sucks. apparently they never get a break 
Quoted from vex:ed, if you could, try and explain how exactly perceived value and product hype effects the suckers proclivity to do the wrong thing at the worst possible time? i am just trying to understand how the suckers mind operates because it is a recipe for failure. you seem well versed in the suckers mentality but can't put it in words.
lets face it, going through life a sucker quite frankly, sucks. apparently they never get a break
I can't speak for Ed, but I, for one, salute the suc... err... early adapters. Thanks to them, prices of pros are kept barely above cost. So operators and us pinball rats who will play damb near anything really make out.
You guys rock! $9300 is an awesome price. Keep up the good work! (and high prices!)
Quoted from vex:ed, if you could, try and explain how exactly perceived value and product hype effects the suckers proclivity to do the wrong thing at the worst possible time? i am just trying to understand how the suckers mind operates because it is a recipe for failure. you seem well versed in the suckers mentality but can't put it in words.
lets face it, going through life a sucker quite frankly, sucks. apparently they never get a break
So anyone that's pays more than you think something is worth is a sucker?
It's really quite simple. Anyone that pays what one might consider too much:
A. Wants the game.
B. Can afford it.
Did I put it in simple enough words?
Quoted from UKCatsFan76:Av8 is his pinside name
Wow if it's this guy
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/will-metallica-be-a-modern-day-afmmm
I'm surprised he's selling before he even gets the game... He's been pumping the game up pretty good in all the MET threads.
Quoted from jhoward1082:I'm surprised he's selling before he even gets the game... He's been pumping the game up pretty good in all the MET threads.
He also just visited the factory and saw the LE on the line.
Presumably he also played the Premium.
Maybe he knows something we don't? 
Quoted from UKCatsFan76:Av8 is his pinside name
You mean the biggest cheerleader and "game pumper-upper" of METALLICA is selling his machine? Say it ain't so? He just went to the factory and played it, correct, was it that bad (not MM)? Or did he buy multiples and pump up the title to help his resale?
You know, threads claiming MET will be the next AFM or MM like this one?
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/will-metallica-be-a-modern-day-afmmm
Or "will Met be better than AC/DC" (more pumping up)
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/will-metallica-be-better-then-acdc
WOW.
Quoted from jhoward1082:Wow if it's this guy
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/will-metallica-be-a-modern-day-afmmm
I'm surprised he's selling before he even gets the game... He's been pumping the game up pretty good in all the MET threads.
Now you know why. 
Quoted from mrgone:Someone please explain to me why anyone would spend 10,000 on the le when you can get a premium for 2,500 less and other than some side art and trans light it's the same game. Yes, I know it's an investment. If you truly feel this way then you are a poser, not a true pinhead. No false metal.
Because they can. It's a free market. The minute anyone, hobbiest, collector, your in-laws, the government starts telling you what you can and can't spend your money on, you're screwed. Which would you rather have? A free market where sales determine value, or a controlled market where there is a cap? Every hobby with collectables goes through the very same thing, whether it's baseball cards, stamps, dolls, toys, action figures, or cars.
Quoted from Pinball-Wiz:You mean the biggest cheerleader and "game pumper-upper" of METALLICA is selling his machine? Say it ain't so? He just went to the factory and played it, correct, was it that bad (not MM)? Or did he buy multiples and pump up the title to help his resale?
You know, threads claiming MET will be the next AFM or MM like this one?
Maybe he's EZ Sleezee, pump and dump specialist......pathetic
I'm all about the free market. The Metallica le has nothing going for it to make it stand out like the tron le did. Just my 2 cents. That coupled with the fact that people are flipping them with out ever playing them . It's their game and their money that can do as they wish. I play games because pinball to me is one of the greatest things ever made.
Quoted from iceman44:Maybe he's EZ Sleezee, pump and dump specialist......pathetic
i am still in shock that the biggest metallica pumper would sell his le. i guess he must know something we don't and is bailing out before the mad rush to the exits?
More pumping
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/metallica-le-back-glass-video
I say more power to him if he wants to bail out, it's his game, but at least be up front about it. His cheerleading is almost comical at this point.
Quoted from movingpictures:Pump and Dump for beginners:
In 4 easy steps (by Av8)
1) change Avatar to pumper
2) hype it up for months
3) visit factory
4) DUMP !!!
i spat coffee because of this!!
Quoted from movingpictures:Pump and Dump for beginners:
In 4 easy steps (by Av8)
1) change Avatar to pumper
2) hype it up for months
3) visit factory
4) DUMP !!!
LMFAO!! Damn that is too good.
AV8- world famous pumper and dumper.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:He posted a video on youtube all pumped!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/1JFQUbxB_a8
ohhhhh Slow motion, MOP will be selling for $10K next week!!
good grief.
yeah, his posts will be forever nothing more than a way to hype whatever it is he is trying to flip in my mind now. that is probably inaccurate on my behalf but it looks pretty greasy and now i have a perception of him in a less than flattering light.
oh well, back to sttng 
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