At least the CE actually gives you something different and extra in this one.
I just wish the LE wasnt a black wrinkle, stern made that look cheep on pros etc. Even a gloss black or something
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I would love to buy one but I can't justify it. I'm selling more cars but my problem is getting enough cash to repurchase cars to sell. I might make 5-8 k in one but them o have to go buy another. My money is still on the road and then there is CODB. And my wife wants to remodel the house. She would kill me.
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Quoted from mtp78:I really think pirates looks great, but jjp killed the sales of dialed in. Everyone will want the latest and greatest and pirates is definitely that.
Their pricing is really getting out of control. How many people can keep buying 10k pinball machines. Seems like corporate interest is taking over and Jack is taking a smaller role.
Jjp is not killing DI sales but sales pins of others manufacturers. That is the aim.
DI and POTC are way different games. So no issue imho.
Quoted from mtp78:I really think pirates looks great, but jjp killed the sales of dialed in. Everyone will want the latest and greatest and pirates is definitely that.
Their pricing is really getting out of control. How many people can keep buying 10k pinball machines. Seems like corporate interest is taking over and Jack is taking a smaller role.
They likely did some damages to Dialed In sales, but in the end I think they were looking to damage CGC sales, Stern LE sales, and other boutique pin sales which I'm pretty sure they gave a good shot across all their bows...
I don’t see POTC killing DI sales. Firstly you have your JJP collectors who will buy every game regardless. Than you have guys who hate widebodys who only have DI to choose from right now. Than you have Pat Lawlor fans who want to own a Lawlor game.
The themes are totally different and plenty of people would rather look at QED or mom’s jeans guy instead of Johnny Depp or Penis Face Monster.
Quoted from libtech:At least the CE actually gives you something different and extra in this one.
I just wish the LE wasnt a black wrinkle, stern made that look cheep on pros etc. Even a gloss black or something
That is easily changed by someone like back alley.
Quoted from libtech:At least the CE actually gives you something different and extra in this one.
I just wish the LE wasnt a black wrinkle, stern made that look cheep on pros etc. Even a gloss black or something
I actually think the stainless of the SE has a higher BOM than the wrinkled black of the LE. But as stated above, you can always have powdercoating done by Matt at BackAlley, who does wonderful work.
Quoted from colonel_caverne:Does the pin get music of the movies? Can clearly hear in the videos.
Nope. That and the video clips from the movies are the big things that are lacking right now. I hope they're able to fix that.
St. Albert, AB
Quoted from bigd1979:The black goes with the artwork well imo and looks slick/clean....
I agree. But it should be powder coated.
Quoted from beelzeboob:Nope. That and the video clips from the movies are the big things that are lacking right now. I hope they're able to fix that.
In the SDTM video of gameplay you can hear some of the music that is in the game now. While not directly from the movie it sounds very fitting. I do hope they get something from the movie at least, even if its just a few bars.
Quoted from bigd1979:Agreed but i just dont play my stern pros anymore after owning a loaded jjp pin lol.
Quoted from beelzeboob:I actually think the stainless of the SE has a higher BOM than the wrinkled black of the LE. But as stated above, you can always have powdercoating done by Matt at BackAlley, who does wonderful work.
Nope. That and the video clips from the movies are the big things that are lacking right now. I hope they're able to fix that.
Wow, I hope so too. Unless it would be a big disappointment.
Quoted from beelzeboob:I agree. But it should be powder coated.
It's not? Wasnt DILE?
I think after the ooh and ahh dust settles, JJP may need to clarify a few details on features before folks earmark more Disney dollars.
Quoted from zr11990:I would love to buy one but I can't justify it. I'm selling more cars but my problem is getting enough cash to repurchase cars to sell. I might make 5-8 k in one but them o have to go buy another. My money is still on the road and then there is CODB. And my wife wants to remodel the house. She would kill me.
Come on zr. We all know that you have more money than Jed Clampett, just buy one! 
I posted this in the article below, but I love the uniqueness of some of the character abilities:
Hector Barbossa – Easier Multi-ball Rules
Tia Dalma – Pick Your Chapter Instead of Random Select
Weatherby Swann – Cannot Be Plundered
Henry Turner – Spot Character Always Lit During Chapters
Carina Smyth – More Time for Chapters
Marty – Keep Some Gold After Tortuga Multi-ball
Scrum – Spot One Female Character Per Chapter
Ragetti – Once a Ball, Add a Ball Into Play When a Ball is on the Pearl
Culter Beckett – More Gold
Blackbeard – Longer Multi-ball Ballsaver
Jack Sparrow – Removes “Worst” Mystery Awards
Davy Jones – Liars Dice Bonus
Will Turner – More Combo Time
Joshamee Gibbs – Tortuga More Valuable
Armando Salazar – Save One Ball from a Multi-ball Multi-drain
Cotton – Easier Pearl Motion
James Norrington – Easier Chapter Rules
Angelica – Spot One Male Character Per Chapter
Bootstrap Bill – Easier Chest Rules
Pintel – Spot PIRATE Lanes
http://thisweekinpinball.com/pirates-caribbean-deep-dive-likes-dislikes-code-features/
I think I will have to raise my rates 3 dollars to gets these games for 2018.......either way...I am In for sure.
Quoted from bigd1979:The black is powdercoat? Its just textured right?
My apologies. Just checked the matrix again and it says textured powder coat. My bad. (Of course that could look an awful lot like the wrinkled black on Sterns, but we'll see.)
Take my money now! NOT. Looks like every other machine since 1989 ramp on both sides kickouts here and there. Not much you can change due to the linear feet of a playfield. Someone needs to come up with a different design, maybe something more in the lines of Pythons Circus upright machine. It can't stay like this.
I think there's a lot of inventive new stuff on this machine. Really brilliant design. That's not whats keeping me from buying it.
Quoted from pinbum:Take my money now! NOT. Looks like every other machine since 1989 ramp on both sides kickouts here and there. Not much you can change due to the linear feet of a playfield. Someone needs to come up with a different design, maybe something more in the lines of Pythons Circus upright machine. It can't stay like this.
Really? I think its veey different with all the subway entrances, 5 diverters, upper loop and shots, crazy upper playfield and so much more?
Quoted from FlippyD:Penis Face Monster
Well you just ruined the CE for me...
How would you describe the barnacle trim?
Quoted from FlippyD:I don’t see POTC killing DI sales.
The themes are totally different and plenty of people would rather look at QED or mom’s jeans guy instead of Johnny Depp or Penis Face Monster.
Quoted from FlippyD:I don’t see POTC killing DI sales. Firstly you have your JJP collectors who will buy every game regardless. Than you have guys who hate widebodys who only have DI to choose from right now. Than you have Pat Lawlor fans who want to own a Lawlor game.
The themes are totally different and plenty of people would rather look at QED or mom’s jeans guy instead of Johnny Depp or Penis Face Monster.
Every pinball machine needs a penis faced monster!
Quoted from KingPinGames:Should all be the same. As with all my sales, if you are a US Armed Forces Member (past or present) I would be happy to pick up the shipping for you. I also offer a double factory warranty at no charge. That being said, the ce are flying off the shelves. This is not a sales pitch. I have taken more orders on day one for PotC CE than have I total for DICE. Let me know if I can help.
yes, at 12500 flying out the door when it isnt even available. they should have charged 14,500
I would be in without a blink of an eye for the collector's edition...
Pin looks amazing, playfield looks great, toys look like quality, reviews very positive, so far all the checklist was on the right track until I heard no original soundtrack and no original voice call outs and yup Just like that I am now out : ( don't mind paying the 13 k but ALL must be at the highest level. Love JJP and no pin company comes close to their standards, but man just push the barrier just a little further and I would be purchasing all the time.
Quoted from zr11990:I'm selling more cars but my problem is getting enough cash to repurchase cars to sell. I might make 5-8 k in one but them o have to go buy another.
Are you flipping cars? How does that work? Curious. Has to be cheaper than houses.
So as to not derail the discussion...
I'm holding out for Muppets or Wonka '71. Will someone, preferably JJP, please do Wonka?!
Quoted from Amused_to_Death:Are you flipping cars? How does that work? Curious. Has to be cheaper than houses.
So as to not derail the discussion...
I'm holding out for Muppets or Wonka '71. Will someone, preferably JJP, please do Wonka?!
U can make some money flipping cars... i use to do it but have moved on to other things. Still have friends that do it and they do well.
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Quoted from marlboroman:so far all the checklist was on the right track until I heard no original soundtrack and no original voice call outs and yup Just like that I am now out
They record over 1200 original callouts for the game, using a voice actor from the movie, so everything fits together, but because you aren't going to hear some stupid out of context quote from a film that has nothing to do with the gameplay you're out.
It's like people don't even want a game anymore, they just want a big fancy Blu-ray player.
Quoted from MustangPaul:Looks GREAT but like all JJP games to expensive for me.
I remember back in 1998 when I wanted to get a Harley Davidson, recently got married and bought a house and wife was pregnant money was tight. Guy at work told me "you know what if you want one so bad make it happen" and I did just that I worked longer hours at the Ford dealership and I moonlighted after work when I came home, things worked out.
There's always ways to buy your toys make it happen Paul.
Quoted from Aurich:They record over 1200 original callouts for the game, using a voice actor from the movie, so everything fits together, but because you aren't going to hear some stupid out of context quote from a film that has nothing to do with the gameplay you're out.
It's like people don't even want a game anymore, they just want a big fancy Blu-ray player.
This was of course talked about at Expo among all of us that were playing it. We never felt like all that stuff was needed what we seen thus far was amazing and David Thiel again kicked ass on the soundtrack, it sounds just like stuff from the movies all you have to do is change a couple notes here there or tones and it still sounds like the original soundtrack.
Like I said in another thread they hired Gibbs character for the custom speech callouts and it's amazing and there's tons more coming.
Just like Alien Pinball you play as Ripley character and her voice is not in the game on Pirates you're playing as Jack, didn't really feel like it was needed to have his voice with so much other senses overload. Don't judge untill you play it. Really...
I agree with Aurich, this was discussed as we were playing the game. I like the direction they are going with this game.
I don't want to play a movie I want to be immersed in the gameplay. It works !
Quoted from Aurich:They record over 1200 original callouts for the game, using a voice actor from the movie, so everything fits together, but because you aren't going to hear some stupid out of context quote from a film that has nothing to do with the gameplay you're out.
It's like people don't even want a game anymore, they just want a big fancy Blu-ray player.
Agreed... id rather have good custom stuff that fits a pinball machine.
Quoted from Aurich:but because you aren't going to hear some stupid out of context quote from a film that has nothing to do with the gameplay you're out.
I don't think callouts from a film is "stupid" last I heard the name of the pin is Pirates of the Caribbean so as a buyer this is what I expect! but hey ...you are entitled to your opinion.
Sound track is just as important and along with the rest of the checklist that's what completes a true perfect collector quality machine!
As consumers we cannot lower the bar and expectations of a product, settling is not an option and doing so will just inevitably keep dropping it.
Looks absolutely incredible - I would love to play one eventually. I'm out on this one though - way too much $$ for a theme I'm not into very much. I am still in on DI eventually, not sure I'd be in on Toy Story either but that will be incredible too, I'm sure!
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:Looks absolutely incredible - I would love to play one eventually. I'm out on this one though - way too much $$ for a theme I'm not into very much. I am still in on DI eventually, not sure I'd be in on Toy Story either but that will be incredible too, I'm sure!
U really need to come by and play my dile... it is a awesome pin. I preordered potc but i still have some issues with it that i will wait to see hopefully get resolved. It's crazy how many go crazy over the theme bc di actually plays much better imo and has tons of neat stuff also. Theres nothing that special that potc has that di dont imo but people care so much about contents and theme.
Quoted from bigd1979:U really need to come by and play my dile... it is a awesome pin. I preordered potc but i still have some issues with it that i will wait to see hopefully get resolved. It's crazy how many go crazy over the theme bc di actually plays much better imo and has tons of neat stuff also. Theres nothing that special that potc has that di dont imo but people care so much about contents and theme.
DI is an amazing game. It's just too annoying to have in my collection, IMO. Pirates is an amazing game so far, but the fake pirate voice every 5 seconds and lack of movie music and clips is a dealbreaker for me (as is the price). Can't wait to play somebody else's, though, because like all JJP games, it's freaking gorgeous.
Quoted from bigd1979:U really need to come by and play my dile... it is a awesome pin. I preordered potc but i still have some issues with it that i will wait to see hopefully get resolved. It's crazy how many go crazy over the theme bc di actually plays much better imo and has tons of neat stuff also. Theres nothing that special that potc has that di dont imo but people care so much about contents and theme.
Definitely! I played it last time I was in Vancouver; I see they have one at VUK but i have not been up to Bethesda in a while. I'm definitely getting one after Houdini, but have to sell something first - having trouble figuring that out! I think the Pirates theme is cool, the game obviously looks amazing, it's just too much for a theme I'm not that into. Houdini, yes. Hobbit, yes, even WOZ, yes. DI is so fun; I'm a big Pat fan so that certainly helps!
Quoted from beelzeboob:DI is an amazing game. It's just too annoying to have in my collection, IMO. Pirates is an amazing game so far, but the fake pirate voice every 5 seconds and lack of movie music and clips is a dealbreaker for me (as is the price). Can't wait to play somebody else's, though, because like all JJP games, it's freaking gorgeous.
Yea thats part of my issue also with potc but not a deal killer.... also how about that the right ramp that goes to the upper playfield every time ....and it also goes up there sometimes from underneath or behind? People complained a lot about g.o.t doing this and potc does it as much or more so which will get old very quickly imo. I wish there was a diverter so it didnt go up there every time. I have some other quirks also but thats the main ones.
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