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Quoted from DaveH:The Matrix - What an AMAZING movie. Some movies just come together and take you along for the ride. This movie did that. The story, the effects, the acting, it was a winner. I loved it.
The only one you need to see. Full stop.
Quoted from xsvtoys:Do you say, there was Alien. And then there was Aliens. And that's it, there were no more Alien movies after that. I do believe so.
Do you say there was Terminator, then there was Terminator 2, and no more Terminator movies after that? It would be reasonable. But I kind of liked T3, and T4 too. Even Genisys was OK by me. Terminator movies, they are cool, I'm a sucker for them. But man, they managed to put a knife in its back with the last one Dark Fate. They did it, they terminated the franchise.
If only Neill Blomkamp's Alien movie got greenlit!
Dark Fate was a terrible movie. The rest after T2 had intriguing ideas and concepts but never really pulled it off. The fan edit of T3 takes some of the more cringy elements out of the movie and makes it a little better but there is only so far you can go.
Quoted from xsvtoys:Do you say, there were just 3 Star Wars movies? Yes, yes, I think so, in my world.
Same.
Quoted from J85M:Let’s be honest the Wachowski‘s are hacks, the only really great film they made was The Matrix and looking at what they did afterwards that was likely a fluke.
Ding ding.
Quoted from J85M:That’s the annoying thing with this latest entry, how can it be so difficult to make a sequel to the first film that’s actually good!?
The storyline was fairly simple in the first but interesting and deep enough you could get invested in it, the action ignoring it was ground breaking at the time was fantastic, that lobby scene still holds up today as an amazing scene.
It really shouldn’t have been hard to make at least one good sequel, stream line the story by cutting all the bollocks and nonsense out of reloaded and there’s a good movie there, whether you like the 2nd or not the majority of the action scenes where brilliant.
There’s some cool moments and fights albeit brief in resurrections but it’s all the other crap that throws it off track.
Cool fights, crazy physics, overly complex and visually stunning choreography is all you really need in a matrix film oh and guns, lots of guns
Some people have only so much gas in the tank.
They make 10 great moves... or one.
Quoted from xsvtoys:You look at those two movies and you just think, if I could get Scott and Miller in a room, I would grab them by the neck and shake them, and say What were you thinking!?!?! You literally GAVE us the awesomeness of the originals born out of the creativity of your own head. How could you F it up so bad now?
Like I said, some guys only have so much gas in the tank. The question is how far are they going to go before it runs out.
Scott still has a fantastic eye for shots.. but his storytelling is for crap.
Miller? Never forgive him for the bait and switch on the last Mad Max movie. Mad Max (and its genre) was also a product of the times to some degree.
Had 2 hours to kill today, so popped it on.
I actually liked it better than 2 or 3.
The action scenes were pretty lack luster in my opinion though and the story was weak sauce. Lot of canon from the first three movies was discarded and never explained why.
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:Fury Road was cool, but it was “Mad Max Stories: Fury Road” it was basically just transitioning into a genre that doesn’t rely on Max. It could have worked if they didn’t screw the audience so hard by dangling Max on a stick and yanking him away near the finish line.
The movie was excellent, action was excellent and Max’s story was pretty decent until they sorta got lost at the end Furiosa was a great character, she would have been fine if they made her the main star without Max.
Miller straight up couldn’t decide who the movie was about
The movie was always about Furiosa, it was a bait and switch.
People went to the movie to see Max, they got her instead.
And the next movie is about Furiosa as well.
Quoted from RonSS:Watched it on HBO,,, over two days,,, with many breaks. Yuck.
Wasn't expecting much, got even less.
I think because I went in expecting a poo show I'm more forgiving up it.
Literally nothing in the movie makes sense.
NPH make an excellent character though who helped carry the movie.
Agent Smith would have been more interesting with Hugo Weaving.
Quoted from oldskool1969:Let me guess, it sucks because it is “ woke Hollywood crap “ again?
It sucks because the story make no sense, disregards all prior canon and has lackluster action.
Quoted from RonSS:While this isn't necessarily untrue, it's not the basis of suckdom in this case.
Oh it's there at least more subtle than usual.
But not why the movie sucks.
Quoted from seenev:You liked NPH? I enjoy his work when he's cast well, but I thought he was completely miscast in this and made for a terrible villain.
He was just "the front man" for the powers that be and played the part well.
Quoted from Methos:The first two are soooo good. Love The Road Warrior the best - the last scene of the film was perfection.
The Road Warrior holds up to this day and all the stunts were live. An excellent sequel that surpasses the first movie which is a rare feat though Mad Max is still an enjoyable movie.
Quoted from Kkoss24:We’re about to sit down in our new home theatre and chose Dune over Matrix .The Matrix trailers turned me off .Dune seems mixed and I’ll take that .
Dune was good.
Quoted from shlt_thunder:I think it was entertaining without being convoluted. Couldn’t ask for much more. The plot was so nutty by the end of the trilogy a coherent enough storyline was better than I expected.
You know on reflection not only did the story disregard the previous 3 movies to some degree it also disregarded the storyline they told in the first half of the movie.
Don't they have people who proof read the scripts?
Quoted from RyanStl:I'm probably going to watch M4 tonight on HBO Max. Like most here I loved the first, thought 2 was decent (it's hard to catch lightning in a bottle), but 3 was terrible.
My question is do I have to rewatch the third movie? I was never able to finish it because it was so bad.
Nope.
Quoted from SonOfaDiddly:lol 'Fury Road was bad' sure is a hot take
The movie theater was dead silent at the viewing I was at.
It was mindless action with the thinnest skin of a story and no Max.
Noticed they destroyed the iconic Interceptor early on?
Quoted from j_m_:that's the thing though. Jupiter Ass-ending was just awful. it's not like it was meant to be bad intentionally.
the Machette films were made to poke fun of the whole grind house genre (and succeeded).
I still want Werewolf Women of the SS to be made
the worst film that I've seen (that wasn't trying to be bad) still has to be Battlefield Earth (or the 2nd half of Waterworld)
Worst film? Wow there has been so many stinkers the only ones that come to mind off the top of my head are Blade II, The Last Jedi and Children of Men. Children of Men was so mind-numbing bad we just shut off the player half way through and its been in the box ever since.
Fantastic start, interesting concept and it just dies half way through.
And yes Jupiter was terrible, my wife said delete it now when the credits rolled.
Quoted from SonOfaDiddly:it won six academy awards and is getting a sequel
So?
Matrix got 3 sequels, all bad.
Quoted from SonOfaDiddly:yeah but like...the first one was good. so was fury road. i'm not sure if you've noticed that bad, unprofitable or widely disliked movies dont generally get sequels
I DIDNT LIKE IT isn't the same thing as IT WAS A BAD MOVIE
Lots of bad movies get sequels as long as Hollywood makes a buck.
Quoted from seenev:Matrix 4 is so bad that they explain Neo and Trinity being alive by just saying the machines rebuilt their bodies, and then NPH actually says that the process was really expensive... Like the machines have some kind of financial economy and they're worried about how much they're spending on resurrecting humans. I can't get over how badly written this movie is. Keanu is too nice. He needs to learn to say no to his friends.
NPH explains how they have to keep Neo away from Trinity and then Neo's handler deliberately introduces them to each other.
WTH.
Quoted from WolfManCat:We only have this movie because Hollywood life styles need to be maintained and the bills need paid. It's the only reason they felt the need to make this pile.
Which is why I laugh about various "awards" given to movies- The vast majority of them are awarded by the very people who make them and are often rigged to boot!
They are all scoundrels and worse.
The Victorians were of the opinion that actors and actresses were actually a cut below prostitutes. After doing some research into Hollywood for a few months I can find no evidence the Victorians were in error with their assessment.
Quoted from SonOfaDiddly:sorry but if you didn't like Fury Road or Children of Men you've really got no call to criticize anything due to incredibly poor taste
Fury Road wasn't about Max and I'd rather watch paint dry then see Children of Men again.
I guess "Furiosa: Fury Road" might have sold fewer tickets.
Max was a bit character in his own movie.
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:Props to Laurence Fishburne & Hugo Weaving for reading this script & throwing it in the trash.
They were actually in talks to have Weaving return, when they found out there was a scheduling conflict they dropped him like a hot brick. Didn't even try to work around his schedule, just bye.
Always thought Fishburne was in the Gene Hackman school of actor motivation and surprised he isn't in it. When Fishburne was asked he was surprisingly vague about it if you parse his answer closely.
Quoted from xsvtoys:After reflecting on the movie for a while, I don't think H Weaving would have helped save the movie in any significant way. It would have been great to see him in it, but that would just be nostalgia.
Oh it would have not fixed the storyline one iota but would have added an interesting layer of suspense to the scenes with "Neo and Smith"
Quoted from ForceFlow:They were trying to cram as much "Hey, remember this cool thing we did in the first movie? Well....we're not doing it here. Just reminding everyone how cool it was in case you forgot."
And they got so busy with that, the plot got left behind at the train station.
They did try to hire Weaver though.
Quoted from TigerLaw:Your post had a chance of garnering some support before you included this closing statement. That movie single handedly ruined the entire Star War universe for many.
My work here is done, g'nite.
f276123fa279fa48 (resized).jpgQuoted from theadicts77:This might be the dumbest comment i've ever read on this board. Good jesus. Incompetent? In what world do you live in? Vendetta and The Matrix are both incredible. I'll wait on your surely amazing feature film you immensely talented individual.
Matrix was great, everything else they have done has been questionable including V for Vendetta.
apron03 (resized).jpgQuoted from theadicts77:Yeah, only one of the best movies made all-time.
apron03 (resized).jpgQuoted from xsvtoys:It was ok for a night of popcorn entertainment. But in the end, nothing epic and lots of lazy CGI and fighting. Like most recent action movies.
How I felt going in watching Matrix 4- No expectations of a decent movie at all and wasn't disappointed.
I'm more disappointed with the Korean series "The Silent Sea" which started out so great... and in the last episode they jumped the shark so badly it achieved orbital status.
Quoted from Friengineer:I read, listen, and follow alot of writers as one day I'd like to be a writer and the problem with M4 is the lack of STAKES. There is no war, the agents are disposable, Neo nor Trinity are going to die. So at the end of the day, what is the point?
Alot of movies fall into this trap. By the fourth one, none of the main characters or old characters are going to die.
A problem with prequels is there is no risk to the characters, you know they live.
Quoted from seenev:I'm surprised by the number of people defending the movie lately, like the movie will get better if you're convinced it's good. Remember that feeling when you saw the first matrix? How it blew you away and you enjoyed every second of it and immediately knew it was one of your favorite movies and you had to see it again right away? Compare that with how you felt watching this latest movie.
A great movie doesn't need time and reflection to convince you it's good. You know right away. Movies rarely get better over time, and of the few that do, this is definitely not one of them.
This is one of those movies where the plot holes just magnify over time as you dwell over the story.
Like someone else stated, NPH whining "how much money" was involved in the 2 main characters being rejuvenated.
Laughable when you think about it.
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