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Whoa Nellie! Big Juicy Melons (Behind the melons)

By DennisNordman

5 years ago

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#1 5 years ago

Behind the melons are a couple of boobs named Greg and Dennis!

I’ve been reading through the recent WNBJM thread and realized that there are some misconceptions and misunderstandings concerning the game. I’d like to address these issues and answer any other questions people may have.
Greg Freres and I set out to build one custom game. We had no programmers, no sound designers, no mechanical engineers, and no hardware designers. We’re just a game designer and an artist with a passion for pinball who wanted to do something unique. We decided to retheme a Continental Café because I had one that needed work and had a broken backglass. We combined our interests in old fruit crate art with ‘50s pinup art (and farming!) and created a unique cabinet and art concept for the game. It was going to be a one-off work of pinball art.
Using the parts and rules from CC, I designed a completely new playfield. This is not just a “reskinning” of CC. We changed it from a 2 player to a one player, eliminated two “Gobble Holes” and moved everything around. The game now has a shot back to the top which most EMs of that era don’t have. It also has two shots back to the pop bumpers. It also now has return lanes to the flippers which EMs of the era didn’t have.
Kerry Imming saw our functioning whitewood and said he could build a solid state system to run the game. At that point we realized it would be feasible to build more games. We found 3 more Continental Café games to use as donors for 3 solid state games.
We built ONE EM version of the game. There are a few more EM versions built by fans that now exist. We built THREE solid state versions using Kerry’s hardware. The playfield is screened playfield wood with a hardcoat. We think the SS versions are much more fun to play. The rules are slightly deeper and there is great music by Speedy West in the game and also some unique sounds. The game plays much faster and snappier than the EM version. There is great pop bumper action and the flippers are powerful. This game is a perfect example of two classic pinball design guidelines; One, “The ball is wild” meaning lots of randomness in ball action. Two, “Easy to understand but difficult to master.” If you can score over 2000 on a three ball game, you’re doing good. The highest score we’ve seen is around 7500.
Here’s my analogy comparing WNBJM to modern games: Today’s pinball games are like formula one race cars, the top of the line, fastest, most highly developed cars in the world. There are very few drivers who can handle these kinds of cars. They all learned on much simpler, more basic cars, usually go karts. Experienced pinball players have grown up with simple pinball games and have learned to handle today’s more complex games. New and inexperienced players are intimidated by these games and don’t know what they are supposed to do. WNBJM is like the go kart. EVERYONE can have fun playing it because it is easy to understand. It’s just plain, simple fun. Its design “levels the playing field” for all skill levels of players. We think it will be a great bar game.

Dennis (and Greg)

#4 5 years ago

The SS version has EM score reels. A production version would have stepper motor reels. The SS version is single player. A production version would also have automatic ball serve. (no ball lift rod to push.)

#9 5 years ago
Quoted from NextoPin:

Where can I see some pics?

Here ya' go.WNBJM lit pists 2.jpgIMG_0325.jpgWNBJM Half Page.jpg

#10 5 years ago
Quoted from jathomp22:

So does this mean more are going to be produced for bars?

We are still working out the details for a production run.

#11 5 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:


That felt good.

Didn't the Fans of Brian Kelly f/b page die due to lack of interest?

#26 5 years ago
Quoted from luvthatapex2:

Will we see it at EXPO this year?

Yes, there will be one at Expo this year.

#27 5 years ago
Quoted from Nelly:

Now if we could only get you to post some info in the "New Elvira" thread. Some of us are DYING to get more info on where that sits.

I wish I had more info to share, but I don't. We do appreciate all the interest and I will say it's not dead yet.

#28 5 years ago
Quoted from mfresh:

If you do a production run do you expect it to appeal to collectors or, given what you said about “Easy to understand but difficult to master,” to operators and bar owners?

We expect it to appeal to everyone.

#29 5 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

I wonder if some of these awesome vintage crate labels were part of your inspiration. Some great stuff.

Oh yes, we've seen those and many others. Beautiful works of art.

#30 5 years ago
Quoted from Don1:

I would love you see you and Greg team up and do a few more one off machines!!!

So would we!

#31 5 years ago
Quoted from Pinballmike217:

Is there any chance you can do a solid state kit?

We discussed it, but we don't want to be in the kit business.

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