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Whoa Nellie


By whitey

4 years ago



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#51 4 years ago

Is this Stern's game or are they just building it for another company?

#52 4 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

Buyers should insist on a 3D Nellie at this price point.

Quoted from ZNET:

In an effort to thwart the erroneous notion that Nellie is the blonde, please see my post above. Admittedly, Nellie is a very attractive horse, as horses go.

Fair enough, but my comment still stands -- nothin' wrong with a 3D horse.

#53 4 years ago

The wood-grain is pretty sweet.

#54 4 years ago

sweet machine !!!

#55 4 years ago
Quoted from sturner:

Is this Stern's game or are they just building it for another company?

The original concept was that of designer, Dennis Nordman, and artist, Greg Freres. Dennis and Greg created WhizBang and made 1 EM version and 3 solid state versions of the game. Each of those 4 games were made by using a 1957 Gottlieb Continental Cafe as the donor game. These WNBJM games sold to collectors for $14,000 each.

Whizbang sold playfields, plastics and decals to enthusiasts, like me, who ruminated about the idea of making our own home-grown versions of the game, which required a scarce Continental Cafe donor game. Collector, Brad Grant (of California), made the 1st home-grown version and I made the 2nd home-grown version.

Greg Freres was hired by Stern in about 2013/14. Greg and/or Dennis pitched the idea to Stern and Stern recently gave it the green light. WhizBang has a Facebook page with more information.
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Brad Grant with his home-grown EM Whoa Nellie above
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My home-grown EM Whoa Nellie above
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My home-grown EM Whoa Nellie above

#56 4 years ago
Quoted from ZNET:

Collector, Brad Grant (of California), made the 1st home-grown version

Was the one at Pin A Go Go 2013 Brad's?

Edit: Oh wait, of course not, the one in question had the crate stand, n/m.

#57 4 years ago

That's the one I'd want.
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#58 4 years ago

6500 estimate is on point. Production to start next month after wrestlemania.

#59 4 years ago
Quoted from leisure:

6500 estimate is on point. Production to start next month after wrestlemania.

And at that price, end about 5PM the same day.

#60 4 years ago
Quoted from leisure:

6500 estimate is on point. Production to start next month after wrestlemania.

Absurd price point. Ridiculous.

#61 4 years ago

I'll wait for the VE...

#62 4 years ago
Quoted from leisure:

6500 estimate is on point. Production to start next month after wrestlemania.

Quoted from CactusJack:

And at that price, end about 5PM the same day.

whoever did the market research before green-lighting production at that price point either has identified a completely new (and heretofore hidden) market segment or has seriously misread the market...

imo, ymmv, etc...

#63 4 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

whoever did the market research before green-lighting production at that price point either has identified a completely new (and heretofore hidden) market segment or has seriously misread the market...
imo, ymmv, etc...

Indeed.

When we were placing bets on what the MSRP would be on this title, I never dreamed it would be near Premium DMD territory.

I seriously wonder how many of these they think they are going to sell at this price point?

#64 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Indeed.
When we were placing bets on what the MSRP would be on this title, I never dreamed it would be near Premium DMD territory.
I seriously wonder how many of these they think they are going to sell at this price point?

yea... i lost that bet to you, but it's not like you were a helluva lot closer than i...

5?

#65 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Indeed.
When we were placing bets on what the MSRP would be on this title, I never dreamed it would be near Premium DMD territory.
I seriously wonder how many of these they think they are going to sell at this price point?

Less then 100 would be my guess and that's being very optimistic. If WWE does as poorly as the initial projections and then this I'd expect a VE tron or LOTR real quick. Not sure what in the world they are thinking if that is the real price. The crate is cool but still costs very little to make. $2999 would have made a lot of people think. $6500 makes a lot of people laugh. I'm still hopefull that WWE will be a surprise good game for stern but initial reviews are far from promising.

#66 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Indeed.
When we were placing bets on what the MSRP would be on this title, I never dreamed it would be near Premium DMD territory.
I seriously wonder how many of these they think they are going to sell at this price point?

Not many.... Probably less than 50

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#67 4 years ago
Quoted from jgentry:

$2999 would have made a lot of people think. $6500 makes a lot of people laugh.

Bingo. I would have bought one at $3k without thinking. Not even going to consider it above $5k.

#68 4 years ago

We should probably wait until a confirmed price is actually announced. But I agree, if it's that high it's basically aimed at a handful of wealthy collectors who didn't get a chance to grab one of the originals, and that's probably about it.

#69 4 years ago

I would rather have legs. I think the crate is ugly. Wood legs look really cool.

I heard from a rather good source that the designers were only offered $14 per game sold because of a small profit margin. So either the $6500 is way off or someone is trying to increase the profit margin.

#70 4 years ago

Love the belly bar and cigarette holders. Those are worth a couple bucks....

Smoke 'em if you got 'em......

#71 4 years ago
Quoted from BenetBoy78:

Love the belly bar and cigarette holders. Those are worth a couple bucks....

Smoke 'em if you got 'em......

Chances are neither of these will be options on the Stern model.
For $6500 I think I should at least get hard wood and a place to put my smoke.

#72 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

For $6500 I think I should at least get hard wood

To be fair, you post this in every thread.

#73 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Chances are neither of these will be options on the Stern model.
For $6500 I think I should at least get hard wood and a place to put my smoke.

I thought the whole point of the game was to give you hard wood ...

#74 4 years ago
Quoted from pezpunk:

I thought the whole point of the game was to give you hard wood ...

I see what you did there!

#75 4 years ago
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#76 4 years ago

Thanks for sharing!
Because if really priced at $6k, the only juicy melons I can afford are on a T-shirt...

#77 4 years ago

Stern is putting their logo on the project?

#78 4 years ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

Stern is putting their logo on the project?

I noticed that too. I assumed Stern was making this game FOR whizbang, but apparently they are in a tighter agreement than that. Perhaps they flat out bought the rights to the game. That also would assume you would call STERN for support of this game not whizbang. Interesting.

#79 4 years ago

Quiddity, looks like you just found my birthday presents.

#80 4 years ago

Had a feeling it was going to be expensive. Low volume and non standard parts (for Stern) such as:
● A unique, durable, weathered fruit crate cabinet design
● Illuminated mechanical score reels
● Retro-style bumper caps and flipper bats
● Two old-time pinball bells and a real cow bell
● “The Knocker”

Are all going to add to the price. Plus I'm assuming its a 3rd party contract.

Don't think there'll be too many sold. Bring on the next VE.

#81 4 years ago

well, at least i can afford a coffee cup...

the "glass" should really be a mason jar though...

#82 4 years ago

Hmm, the Stern logo feels pretty tacked on, that's kind of lame.

#83 4 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

● Illuminated mechanical score reels
● Retro-style bumper caps and flipper bats
● Two old-time pinball bells
● “The Knocker”

I can get all those on a $300 EM.

#84 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I can get all those on a $300 EM.

Exactly, but hard to re-create those old features now.

To be honest i'd much prefer the 50 year old EM (regardless of price).

#85 4 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

the "glass" should really be a mason jar though...

this

#86 4 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Hmm, the Stern logo feels pretty tacked on, that's kind of lame.

It's funny to hear all the complaint's on the Stern logo when games like Gottieb 300 had the Gottieb logo on the backglass apron and even the playfield. Bally Evel Knievel had the Bally signature three times on the back glass . A logo on a shirt or cup no big deal

#87 4 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

well, at least i can afford a coffee cup...
the "glass" should really be a mason jar though...

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#88 4 years ago

^^^^

that's what i'm talkin' about!

#89 4 years ago
Quoted from ek77:

It's funny to hear all the complaint's on the Stern logo when games like Gottieb 300 had the Gottieb logo on the backglass apron and even the playfield. Bally Evel Knievel had the Bally signature three times on the back glass . A logo on a shirt or cup no big deal

Notice I'm not complaining about the Whiz Bang logo.

I guess they're co-releasing it, instead of Stern building it for them, ala MMR.

#90 4 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Notice I'm not complaining about the Whiz Bang logo.
I guess they're co-releasing it, instead of Stern building it for them, ala MMR.

Maybe it runs on SPIKE now, so they had code work to do.

#91 4 years ago
Quoted from epthegeek:

Maybe it runs on SPIKE now, so they had code work to do.

Oh great, now we're going to have to wait for Stern to finish code on EM level rules?

#92 4 years ago

That's the funniest thing I've ever heard!

#93 4 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Oh great, now we're going to have to wait for Stern to finish code on EM level rules?

On a serious note.....were you were expecting otherwise?

There's no way on earth Stern is sourcing parts to build this game as a "true" EM. No. WAY. That's the only way they could even remotely justify asking the bonkers price that's been floated so far, so you know it ain't true, because there'd be about diddly squat profit margin in there.

#94 4 years ago
Quoted from epthegeek:

Maybe it runs on SPIKE now, so they had code work to do.

No, it runs on a custom system created by Kerry imming

#95 4 years ago
Quoted from luvthatapex2:

No, it runs on a custom system created by Kerry imming

The four originals do, but will the new ones made by Stern?

#96 4 years ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

The four originals do, but will the new ones made by Stern?

The first of the 4 originals is still an EM, only the ones after it use that new system. I've only played the EM one since my friend owns it, so I'm not sure how the solid state ones feel.

I fully expect the new machines to be solid state, faux-EMs. I just wasn't expecting them to be "Stern" releases I guess. Not the end of the world or anything, but I'd rather have the old original Whiz Bang merchandise.

#97 4 years ago

What's wrong with Stern's logo being on it? Stern is a great company, and apparently one of the main reasons this machine is being made and distributed. Built in their factory right here in America. Stern's proudly putting their logo on it and rightfully so.

#98 4 years ago

Drop Targets ,spinners. Cool to look at but boring to play real quick .

#99 4 years ago
Quoted from whitey:

Drop Targets ,spinners. Cool to look at but boring to play real quick .

Whuh?

That's CrAzY talk!

#100 4 years ago

The way Americans have "re-shaped" themselves since the 1950.s when Belly Bars were OEM, one might think Americans need belly bars on their pins more now than ever.
Regardless, the wooden belly bar and non-china cigarette holders would be an acceptable adder I would likely purchase given a price point on the machine at $3500 delivered.
Keep the lighting so it isn't blinding and it could be a nice EM supplement for a Sunday morning, or time that I want to play pinball with my EM's, but not with my 21st century SS style pins. A shaker would be acceptable, if that could get worked into the machine.

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