Wow. "GOT All The Way" but no "Hobbit All The Way" option. It should only be those two options to be a fair conparison but the options are geared to favor GOT of course! Rigged, lol.

It all depends on how good the code will be for GOT. TH is going to have incredible, interesting and deep code thanks to legendary pinball programmers Keith Johnson and Ted Estes. With GOT we don't know how well the code will be and how well it will be supported after release.

I do find the GOT premium / LE layout far more interesting then The Hobbits layout. TH really only has 4 shots that pass through an area being the two ramps, and 2 orbits. There appears to be 7 pass through shots in GOT. Also, the GOT layout just offers more variety then TH which is very symmetrical.

I do think that Smaug will be a cool toy but it's also the games central toy which doesn't interact with the ball compared to an entire mini playfield in GOT. The Hobbit really needed more variety in the toy department in my opinion. The game could have benefited heavily if the windlace "toy" (a pop up peg at the kickback...) was a motorized cannon that could hit any of the drop targets. Now that would have been amazing.

Wow. That GOT pro backglass makes the theme look like a crappy Sci-fi show. I don't even know Photoshop well and could come with something better in a few days.

I think both games will be winners long term. Just at both of the playfield pics below for each game, both look pretty awesome in my book. I still give the edge to The Hobbit though simply due to how much you are getting for the price compared to GOT, especially if you got in at $7500 or $8k.

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How do you get $1700 more? GOT LE is what $7,800? Hobbit LE is $8500 right now so for $700 more you are getting a 27" LCD, mini LCD on the playfield, invisiglass, shaker motor, more drop targets, a more main interactive toy (there I said it, lol), far more code, far more audio, far more animations, etc. If you got in on TH at $7500 the game actually cost less then GOT LE...

or are we talking $1700 more for GOT LE over the premium? lol. That I don't understand either.

Yeah I hear ya there. I don't see where Stern is justifying the $1700 increase over the premium with their LE. That's an amazing price for a premium, I would buy one too for that price.

I hear ya and I felt the same way when I played it. That was nearly a year ago so I'm sure a lot has changed code wise with the game. Hopefully it plays a lot better now. Back then I just felt like the ball was bouncing all over the place with no real goals.

Agreed. You save a lot of money that way. I would love a Ghostbusters LE and from what we are hearing there isn't a premium. However, we all know Stern has gone back before and made a premium version...TWD. I can see them doing the same thing with Ghostbusters as I think the game is going to be a big seller if a lot of the rumors about the game (even if it doesn't have an LCD) are true.

For $1700 more GOT LE should come with a ColorDMD, invisi / PDI type glass, shaker motor, a more impressive LE plaque (not a tiny piece of metal you can barely read the text on) and their sold separately topper. If all of that came with the LE then I can see justifying the price, lol.

I'm a big JJP supporter, would pick TH over GOT but I would pick GB over TH. GB has far more unique shots, more unique and interesting toys, and far better artwork compared to TH in my opinion. My main complaint about TH is that all of the shots feel too similar and not really satisfying. The game still looks beautiful and will have an epic ruleset. Ghostbusters just seems far more interesting to me.

I was considering getting back in on TH but after seeing Ghostbusters I'm in on that game. I have a feeling that GB will go down as a top 10 pin.