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Who likes fixing more than playing?


By SilverUnicorn

6 months ago



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  • Latest reply 6 months ago by pinfixer
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    Topic poll

    “What do you like better?”

    • Restoring / fixing games 102 votes
      53%
    • Playing games 51 votes
      27%
    • The thrill of buying a new game 17 votes
      9%
    • Bacon! 22 votes
      11%

    (192 votes)

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    #1 6 months ago

    I love to play pinball, but lately I have come to enjoy cleaning, repairing and just bringing stuff back to nice condition. I realized this yesterday when working on a MixMaster assembly from a Dr. Dude.

    There’s just something as a hobbyist in making things look nice again and play as they should. I am not talking HEP restoration, that’s a whole other level. Just basic stuff that makes a difference.

    Is anyone else like this or am I crazy?

    Oh and a before / after of the Mixmaster

    Chris

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    #2 6 months ago

    Not crazy at all... I'm pretty sure I fall into that camp.

    #3 6 months ago
    Quoted from Ricochet:

    Not crazy at all... I'm pretty sure I fall into that camp.

    Ditto.

    #4 6 months ago

    I can spend 20 hours cleaning and fixing a game, play it 3 times, and then sell it. It's just relaxing ripping apart a playfield and cleaning it.
    You should have put up a poll.

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    #5 6 months ago

    I’m starting to work on them more than playing and love it. I find it very relaxing and a great distraction from other stuff going on that’s not so great.
    And I love a good before and after shot to see the progress. This is one of my more involved projects.

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    #6 6 months ago

    You're not crazy. There's a reason why a lot of pinheads are engineering types. I'm still fascinated by what makes these games tick (especially the 80s/90s era) ...and diagnosing and fixing issues is both fun and frustrating at the same time.

    #7 6 months ago
    Quoted from freeplay3:

    I can spend 20 hours cleaning and fixing a game, play it 3 times, and then sell it. It's just relaxing ripping apart a playfield and cleaning it.
    You should have put up a poll.

    Poll added!!

    #8 6 months ago

    I love playing, but fixing and restoring is what keeps my interest in the hobby. If it was only playing, I would get bored rather quickly. I suppose that is why the NIB buyers cycle through games so fast.

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    #9 6 months ago

    There’s a huge difference between playing a game you bought fully working vs. playing a game you’ve brought back from the dead and restored.

    And a couple before and after pics....
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    #10 6 months ago

    Okay. Now you're making me choose between the purchase, the fix up, and bacon...that's just mean.

    #11 6 months ago

    I'm solidly in this category too. I've always enjoyed finding abused, broken, abandoned
    pinball machines and the process of bringing them back to life. Its a very rewarding
    personal challenge. Playing a game you restored is far more fun IMO.
    Anyone can open their wallet and plunk down a few kilobucks for new or
    overpriced pins but few can polish a turd.
    Steve

    #12 6 months ago

    I dont like to fix more than i play, but I still end up spending more time fixing than playing....

    #13 6 months ago

    You people are masochists! But we thank you.

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    #15 6 months ago

    boy I love me some BACON!!!!

    well I do have to admit. I am not an engineer or a tech guy. Just a guy that enjoys playing games. I have been buying broke games because I can afford that. now that i have been in the hobby for a while, I have learned so much and get some great gratification when i bring back a game to life. Then after ripping it apart and making it shine again just makes me smile when walk by it.

    #16 6 months ago

    I'm an engineer and I like fixing all kinds of things. Pinball machines are like a hobby. There is a certain satisfaction from having something on the machine not working properly, fixing that, and then seeing the results. I'm not that much into restoring old machines. That is more like a labor of love, that is not something that I would do first. Replacing broken parts or repairing wiring errors and such, is something I can get into. Just like on cars, I can replace anything broken or not working properly. Restoring old cars is a lot more work that I am not willing to do.

    #17 6 months ago

    I barely ever play my pins. Much rather be fixing them. It's what I enjoy.

    #18 6 months ago

    I definitely fall into that camp. Look at how many of my started threads say **-FIXED-** in front of them. I love working on them.

    If you can fix them, you can play them. The converse is not necessarily true.

    Anyone can throw their money around, have an A-list B/W collection, or buy every new Stern and JJP to keep up with the Jonses.

    #19 6 months ago

    I like fixing more than playing

    #20 6 months ago

    I am in this group. I am currently working on restoring a skateball and a meteor at the same time.

    #21 6 months ago

    I'm no engineer but I like to turn nuts, bolts and screws. Before this, I did car stuff. This is much different than car stuff, but it scratches the same itch.

    #22 6 months ago

    Playing, well I've usually had enough after about 30 min to an hour.
    Restoring never gets boring. I have no idea why taking something apart, cleaning it, and putting it back together makes me happy, but it does.

    #23 6 months ago

    I love helping Steve Young stay in business. Just finished a "Card Whiz", onto a "Surfer" restore
    It's a great feeling when you can bring a pin back from the dead.

    #24 6 months ago

    I think I enjoy fixing them more than playing, with the exception of my latest acquisition, Seawitch.
    Honestly, I’m a bit annoyed with myself because I spent hours and hours fixing games but once it’s done I rarely play them!

    #25 6 months ago

    Im the opposite of most of you guys. I buy these games to play em and do not really enjoy the other aspects. Its just another chore for me to do in my mind...

    I get the reward of fixing things though...

    #26 6 months ago

    You are SURROUNDED by like-minded individuals - fixing of course... that's not to say I don't like playing... or bacon.

    #27 6 months ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    You people are masochists! But we thank you.

    You are not wrong. The amount of work involved in the latest restoration of Freefall was excruciating.

    #28 6 months ago

    Fix more than play any day of the week.

    #29 6 months ago

    Let's see, I do full blown restores, have a two pin collection, one of which is for sale, what does that say about me?

    I'm a fixer upper! Wait, that came out wrong.

    #30 6 months ago

    Still trying to decide which one to vote for. I love scoring a multi game deal with a few fixer uppers. Then I get to do the work which is fun. My business is pinballs and vending. My wife dosent like it when I work because I have too much fun doing it. And then I see things like this and it makes it hard to choose.

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    #31 6 months ago

    I love playing and working on projects about equally. I like the "fixing" part less when the project part is over and something randomly stops working or breaks. When it goes from fixing something for fun as a project vs. fixing something to avoid having an unplayable game in the lineup it can be a bit frustrating, but it comes with the territory.

    #32 6 months ago

    I wish I could fix as much as I play. I’ve been in search for a good project pin, but, as everyone here knows, they are hard to come by. One of these days...

    #33 6 months ago

    I'd love a real dirt bag of an Addams Family to restore.

    #34 6 months ago

    I like playing. It is fun.

    Who wants to come over and fix the ones I can't play since they are broken? If it's so much fun, that is.

    I'll stay 6 feet away! Or we can schedule it for later when things quiet down. I'm flexible.

    #35 6 months ago
    Quoted from DanQverymuch:

    I like playing. It is fun.
    Who wants to come over and fix the ones I can't play since they are broken? If it's so much fun, that is.
    I'll stay 6 feet away! Or we can schedule it for later when things quiet down. I'm flexible.

    Im with ya. Anyone who wants extra enjoyment can certainly come fix my issues when they pop up!

    #36 6 months ago
    Quoted from zarco:

    I'm solidly in this category too. I've always enjoyed finding abused, broken, abandoned
    pinball machines and the process of bringing them back to life. Its a very rewarding
    personal challenge. Playing a game you restored is far more fun IMO.

    Bingo! The game is sweeter when you have brought it back to life.

    #37 6 months ago

    I used to like fixing pins when projects used to be cheaper. Now everything gets snatched up so quickly and at higher prices...I just stopped chasing. Occasionally I will luck into a project and remember how fun it is to work on pins again. Reminds me I need to find a summer project!

    #38 6 months ago

    I used to be this guy and got burnt out. I would get every cool project I could get my hands on. I got real good at going over games and fixing anything I came across.
    These days I enjoy casually playing and focusing on greenfield projects. Sometimes a little thing that needs adjusting will persist for weeks because I don't want to take off the glass.

    Projects are still appealing because I'm so frugal, but trying to only get stuff that I'll end up keeping.
    Flipping stuff to make a buck is cool, but ultimately not worth the time that could be spent elsewhere (for me).
    Still waiting for a ratty FH or CFTBL to show up and do a complete restoration on it!

    #39 6 months ago
    Quoted from Ricochet:

    I'd love a real dirt bag of an Addams Family to restore.

    Quoted from dudah:

    I used to be this guy and got burnt out. I would get every cool project I could get my hands on. I got real good at going over games and fixing anything I came across.
    These days I enjoy casually playing and focusing on greenfield projects. Sometimes a little thing that needs adjusting will persist for weeks because I don't want to take off the glass.
    Projects are still appealing because I'm so frugal, but trying to only get stuff that I'll end up keeping.
    Flipping stuff to make a buck is cool, but ultimately not worth the time that could be spent elsewhere (for me).
    Still waiting for a ratty FH or CFTBL to show up and do a complete restoration on it!

    Who wouldn't want to find a blown out (insert your game here.) Problem now is no matter how beat down a game is, somebody does a half ass shop job and thinks it's worth just a few hundred under pinside average.

    #40 6 months ago

    What?! There's no choice that says I like it all?!

    I guess that choice must be bacon since everyone likes bacon

    #41 6 months ago

    I fix more than play. Its therapeutic.

    #42 6 months ago
    Quoted from freeplay3:

    Who wouldn't want to find a blown out (insert your game here.) Problem now is no matter how beat down a game is, somebody does a half ass shop job and thinks it's worth just a few hundred under pinside average.

    Love seeing ads with "worth xxx when restored"

    And? As it sits not worth a 1/4 of that if not less.

    #43 6 months ago

    Kinda the opposite for me---US.. ..... I love to play ... I am horrible at fixing games and understanding the workings.... I try and then get frustrated.. and give up...BAD.....

    So anyone in the area come on over and fix away...Please Teach us the way of the pinball machine,,,.,.,..I have plenty of working games and some needing attention... Can pay or trade for ???? Food Drinks..etc.... Friendship.... Nick.

    Congrats to the peeps that this kind of thing comes easy..... NT.

    #44 6 months ago

    I probably spend 20 hours fixing to each hour playing. If I factored my time in each of the last 3 games I brought back from the dead, my labor rate was maybe $5 an hour if that. But the satisfaction of getting another project game up and running again make it worthwhile.

    #45 6 months ago

    I really like fixing pinballs, as long as it isnt complicated electrical problems like a broken circuit board. Its very rewarding seeing a dusty game that plays bad end up in great shape.

    Every new game I buy gets a complete teardown on the upside and all assemblys on the downside get properly cleaned. It often take weeks before I can play it.

    The only thing I hate is fixing pop bumpers, screw them.

    #46 6 months ago

    They are very enjoyable fixing up because they have many skills involved and it's all in a single project. You have wood shop, metal shop, painting/art of the playfield, and electronics/electrical work.

    #47 6 months ago

    I enjoy 'restoring/fixing' to a point. The problem is the big project severely take my playing time down.

    #49 6 months ago
    Quoted from Dent00:

    I'm an engineer and I like fixing all kinds of things. Pinball machines are like a hobby. There is a certain satisfaction from having something on the machine not working properly, fixing that, and then seeing the results. I'm not that much into restoring old machines. That is more like a labor of love, that is not something that I would do first. Replacing broken parts or repairing wiring errors and such, is something I can get into. Just like on cars, I can replace anything broken or not working properly. Restoring old cars is a lot more work that I am not willing to do.

    I do both. Mechanic by trade and livelihood, been restoring pins since 2006. Restoring cars is much greasier, lots of fluids, but you get to drive em. Pins are cleaner but you get to play em.

    #50 6 months ago

    I have a desk job, so learning to fix and restore pinballs has been a new challenge for me. I really enjoy this side of the hobby. My restoration projects take a long time though. I start working on a game and then end up playing the game next to it. If only I could multitask.

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