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Who is second guessing their jjp potc preorder

By bigd1979

6 years ago


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“Are you gonna cancel your order if the new spinning disk configuration stays?”

  • Yes 230 votes
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  • No 71 votes
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  • Gonna wait it out till my order is ready and then decide 68 votes
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Post #15 Video from the designer explaining the changes Posted by bigd1979 (6 years ago)


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#272 6 years ago

I'm sorry, but you can't charge the prices they're asking for these games and then rip out one of the two biggest selling points at the last minute. You just can't do that and expect people to be okay with that and no price change?

I played it at TPF, I had a MASSIVE game that went on for 30-45 minutes, so I got a very good feel for how the triple disc mech played when it was working correctly. It. Was. Amazing. I've seen magnets do some fun stuff, but you know what I've never seen in pinball before?

The ball take a path down the middle of the playfield that looked like \/\ <--that but vertical, within an inch and a half constraint. The ball came STDM, and literally changed direction THREE TIMES and STILL ended up in the middle because it faked me out and I mis-flipped. It was hilarious, and over in a second and a half. Really disappointing...it was looking like the best JJP title so far, now it's just the next Dialed In to me.

Pachislo and other slot machines have had stepper controlled reels that can spin in both directions, stop where the game wants it to stop without it being obvious to the player, and backlit RGB for *years*. The only difference here is size and weight aside from a ball rolling around on top of it, but when you'd need it to critically stop to reward a mystery, wouldn't the ball be in a scoop or something!? ...it sounds to me like they just haven't done proper engineering for that mech.

Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

Since it’s already been revealed

This is the rub against the grain for me.. not that I was ever a buyer, but as a follower of the market and a player. Stern did a similar thing with Star Trek...anyone remember that? The VUK on the premium/pro on that left side was supposed to somehow shoot the ball up onto the warp ramp? They found out in testing that it wasn't reliable when you couldn't guarantee a solid electrical system on location, and pulled it out of the game. But you know the difference? They didn't bring it to the biggest shows around the country, or even show it on promotional material BEFORE they pulled it. =| Star Trek was disappointing, but this completely guts the soul of this game, I feel like. The upper right mini playfield is more annoying than fun to me. It's neat, but it's a chore. The triple-disc introduced a lot of random ball pathing that the game DESPARATELY needs and a single disc ain't going to cut it.

#277 6 years ago

To add to my prior points.... I think replacing the triple-disc with magnets would've been a better choice than a single spinner. Game really needs that unpredictability to keep the game times from being absolutely ludicrous like Hobbit. There's FIVE mulitballs that are relatively easy to achieve and they stack (ask me how I know...oh, that's right, I played them all, with double stacks twice!)... without some kind of randomizer that's occasionally going to bork the player short of them screwing up (almost every ball I lost was due to missing the right or left ramp shot, and bad angle off a post) it's just going to be WAY too long playing for my taste more likely than not. It's a deep game, it needs some fun punishment to keep things interesting for solo players who don't have anyone to plunder.

#464 5 years ago
Quoted from _xizor:

The pre-order experience is something that needs to be managed in a luxury good.

Maybe JJP should get the louis vuitton licence to compete with the Supreme pin.

#504 5 years ago

Did anyone ever explain what an "edge lit" spinner is? Is it just a clear acrylic spinner with an LED pointed at it, or was that another cut feature?

#519 5 years ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

Very curious about the wh20 insanity falls thing?

Me too! What the heck!

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#611 5 years ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

I don't see an issued patent for the disks on Google patents yet.
Interesting, JJ Pinball did get a patent on their individually resetting targets of a drop target bank.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9700783B2/en?assignee=JJ+PINBALL+LLC

How the f--k?

There's prior art from 20 years ago. How many bally games had memory drop targets? Though ironically, Centaur aside..at least Hobbit shares one other thing in common with most of them: It's terrible.

I guess changing the position of a trip coil is enough to get a patent.

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