If my TBL gets delivered this year, does that count?

As of now, I am not planning on buying any.

Houdini

Too bad you're on the other side of the country, I'm getting ready to shop out my ACDC Premium for sale, to fit and pay for the aforementioned TNA.

I love Lyman codes but this one I never understood it. I had resold mine quickly...as many pinball fellows love it!

Thanks to Pinside research I have developed a phobia for NIB games. I don't like the electronics on any of them. Pages of other issues I won't regurgitate. Prices are ridiculous too. I was seriously contemplating my first NIB this year and really liked Lebowski. That is out.
I have returned to the land of EM, with a few SS contenders if they show up. I am of the opinion Bally/ Williams was the best, and still is the best of the Modern Era. I would rather restore/repair one of these than buy a you-know-who.

Im back to HUO, 2nd to 4th owner....This year, picked up a New Stern for $4300 as third owner as opposed to NIB of $5200 -$5400.

The savings allow me to enjoy with the least amount of a loss on the subsequent sale.

Not planning NIB unless..... Iron Maiden is sensational!

Or in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 or in the future.

Stern’s neglect of the collector leaves me out of buying anything from them. Burned by Heighway’s return policy, out. Other boutiques have no interesting titles, and other than POTC from JJP, out of my price comfort zone by far. So no pins.

When I first started collecting, I thought it was nuts to buy NIB. I waited for games to be a few years old and try and find a good condition deal. I got away from that in the last few years. I am back to my original strategy. Too much NIB depreciation for me to swallow any more.

Even as little as 15 years ago it was near impossible to restore the old clunkers that were rescued from onsite and often you had to pass them over if they had a missing unobtainium assembly or unique part.

These days there are so many vendors to choose from and parts availability is at an all time high it is a great time to be in the restoration side of the hobby and you can take a gamble on a batch of container pins from the other side of the world knowing that there are replacement parts for close to 95% of them.

If I can sell off a few more high end restores this year and depending on prices I'll aim on bringing in another container load of restoration candidates in the second half of the year.

I have done it a few times. It is largely overrated and quickly wears off once you set it up and start finding design flaws/quality control issues from both of the two main manufacturers which could be overlooked if they had a price point comparable to the end product.

Now that I have my game room filled up and have a few more pins overflowing in another building, my NIB purchases will be very limited . It's going to have to be a "must have title" here on out. I have gotten burned out on all the "LE " "Super LE" and "Special Editions after the LE's" and the stupid prices that come with them. I know it's all comes down to the simple supply and demand rule that has caused the sudden prices increase over the past few years, but my demand for these stupid over priced special editions are done. Last NIB was a Aerosmith Premium and happy with it NOT being a LE.

I was thinking about POTC but the build quality of JJP has put me off massively. Bunch of guys got their Dialled In machines here in the UK and they have been piss poor from a quality POV. What is clear is that I won't buy any game I haven't played and I have better expectation of a long cycle of machine arrive to code done. B66 really reduced my view of getting a game NIB and being able to say I love it. AFMR restored that to some extent!

Iron Maiden - No - god knows why anyone would make such a machine. I'd have to have played it a lot and really like the gameplay. Theme == 0
GOTG - Maybe; need to play it more, love the theme, played it at IAAPA but such early code, music missing
Beastie Boys - Probably only music pin that would appeal to me.
Toy Story - would have to have epic toys and gameplay- first problem is Tom Hanks won't do call outs so you know its going to be poor from that POV.
Houdini - Like the theme, game has to be good quality, lots of stepping back from first protos - so far not looking good from a UK perspective.
Thunderbirds - are you mental?
Elvira - Maybe, theme is ok, gameplay needs to kick ass, looks good if Lyman on code.
TWD Vault - HELL YES
CCR, If the code is finished in some way, strong possibility
Queen, ahahaha Heighway - I don't think so.
willy Wonka -> theme value == 0 and Gene Wilder being dead hard for new call outs.
Jurassic World, needs to have cool dinosaur toys and great game play. theme borderline
Jaws - HELL YES

just some random - thoughts.

I regret Vault doesn’t mean now with LCD screen.

I would add:
- Wooly
- BBB ( I prefer it over CC by mile far)

Funny you mention Galahad, Bally released a Galahad slot machine three or so years ago. I played it for old time sake and enjoyed it. The artwork remided me of the pin and I actually came out maybe twenty bucks ahead.

I have never bought a NIB game and don't see any theme or game that would make me do so. I'd much rather wait to see if the game is any good before committing to buy it. I've never really been the bleeding edge, have to have it before anyone else, type of guy and don't see that changing any time soon. I'll just live vicariously through the guys that do buy NIB games.

Dave

No NIB Sterns for me but will consider every other manufacturer that rolls good games and code out the door and continues to support them(JJP, Spooky, AP(Hopefully), CGC).

It's a broken record around here but Stern has lost my support for NIB purchases until they get their heads out their asses and support their old games AND new games with polished code.

I'm priced out of the NIB market. Just isn't worth it to me for that kind of dough, especially when I can play all the new games on route anyway.

NIB costs too much and is a financial gamble due to the incomplete software they’re released with.

Saying that, I’d love a nearly new TNA.

Nope I'm done with NIB too expensive to purchase and most of the new board systems are not user repairable plus there are some great barcades in my area where I can get my new game fix without taking the NIB hit.

Who Is Not Planning On Buying Any New (NIB) Games In 2018 ?

Me! No plans at all.

However, I do have plans on paying my mortgage, car payment, daughter's college tuition, utilities, groceries, gasoline....ect.

Nope, no NIB for me this year.

E

TnA & MBr this year for me. Maybe PotC, gotta see how it turns out first

For reasons to good to pass up, I will be taking advantage of Arcade Expo 4.0 and buying a gently used NIB "DEMO" Stern in March. Seriously, I think it's too good of a deal to pass up. It was a hard pick for me but I went with SW Pro which will be a nice add to our growing game room.

1st I’m going to play the machine before I pay for any NIB.

Good score. “Shift Gears’” is such an adventurous call out and fitting for this post.

99.995% of the world's population is not planning on buying any NIB pinballs in 2018, or ever.

1 in 9 of those just hopes to get enough food to eat.

I'm definitely not buying any games NIB games in 2018. Well, except for the Zombie pitch and bat, I have to have that. Oh, I'm going need an Elvira 3 also. Well s*%t, never mind.

Not me, because I won't have the money.

You mean it is indecent to buy a (new) pin?
What is the aim of your post? blame those who can buy a (new) pin?
Sorry I didn’t get it...

Stern is the only company shipping an operator's pin. But I'm done. It took them a while, but Stern finally beat me down. They lost my collector business last year, and they've finally lost my operator business as well.

I suspect there will probably be some great titles, but with a 100% track record of unfinished code, and no evidence to suggest code will be completed on any game, in any amount of time be it weeks, months, years, or decades, I'm simply not tolerating it any longer.

It's time to ship with completed code. Cut the shit with the new and un-improved cost reductions and QC problems cropping up in every new title. Stern fixes one problem then immediately creates a new one. Thanks, but no thanks. They'll need to step up and actually EARN my business now because they are damn well no longer getting it by default.

So now I'm liquidating some duplicates and reallocating funds into more lucrative business investments.

I'll be sending many pins to Captain's auction in Aneheim over the coming months.

The following are already there for the next auction:

Avatar LE
Kiss Pro
AC/DC Pro
X-Men LE HUO
Harley Davidson 1st Ed. Sega

All pins are upgraded with 100% LED lighting including a backbox LED panel.

Mirror blades or skins and extensive mods on all pins.

There are about 7 billion people on the planet.

.005 of the world's population equates to approximately 35 million humans.

Therefore, I believe your completely fabricated statistic may be in error. Please re-fabricate your flawed statistic to reflect your idea in a more plausible manner.

Further, you may be able to actually feed more people by writing your elected officials and explaining that burning food for fuel (corn/ethanol) is probably a bad idea. If the world's starvation is truly your concern, I'd recommend this approach over trying to get somebody not to buy a pinball machine.

Are you done with pins in the Fremont Arcade?

I was simply answering the question in the thread title. It didn't say "Are you buying...? " The idea was to make the vast majority of pinheads, who are not buying NIB because they couldn't if they wanted to, feel better via some perspective.

Your criticism is only off by a factor of 100, congrats on your 99% fail. You need to brush up on using percentages. And you also left off another 600 million from the population. But I did mean to say 99.9995%, still leaving a rather high 38 thousand, but a far cry from 35 million!

Oh definitely not. We just don't have the room as the arcade is so small.

We have an offer in on a space a block away that's 6,700sf compared to our 3,200sf. If we close the deal, I'll bring whatever I can from my collection over there again.

He definitely gets more than his fair share. I just have a lot of "dead money" lying around and would prefer to put it into something more lucrative. It's not just pinballs. We sent a Star Wars Battle Pod over there as well as a few other games.

This is a pinhead forum and the question is normal. Everyone does with his means.
But It is always onerous to compare what you could spend for whatever the hobby (as it is not money spent for your survive) with the misery in the world.

Talk about some fabricated numbers. 100% track record of unfinished code? Is that a joke or are you even playing any of the games? There's still a few in progress but most of the games are pretty polished and have a ton of code.

A few.
Most.
Pretty polished.
A ton of code.

Tell me the code is finished on BM66, GoTG, Star Wars, and Aerosmith. Go ahead. Tell me how great and fully coded they are.

Bend over just a little further. Gary has a super, duper, ultra secret LE he wants to sell you. You just need to get naked, send a video of your dog doing....

Perhaps you're ok with buying an unfinished product and waiting 1, maybe 2 years for completion. I'm not.

I'll spend my money how I choose based on my wants/needs, and you're free to spend your money how you choose, based on your wants.

I don't want, nor need, an unfinished game.

Therefore, I'll begin considering Stern's next title, in about 2 years.

Clear enough for you?

This is my sweet spot for purchasing any game. I get quite easily swept up in the hype and have purchased several nib games over the years, but I really dislike the game of the depreciation etc. there are several new games I’d love to own; but appreciate the potential for better code and what a better value they will be in a few years.

Maybe my New Years resolution should be patience.
They say with contractors you want good, cheap and fast; but you can only get two of those three things.
For used Pinball I want a game that is a great title, a good value; and has mature code. I’ll should learn to be happy with two out of three!

There are some rumored titles coming in 2018 that would be extremely tempting.

However this year we are making a push to pay off the house by July and then are planning a big vacation.

So even if a title is released in 2018 that I really like it would probably be 2019 that we actually buy it unless I sell something.

Elvira 3 will definitely be tempting, but I really don't see myself adding anything new in 2018. I'm completely out of room, so if I pick up any pins this year, I'll need to sell some vids first.