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We’re moving to Cactus Canyon! Official Preorder thread

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“Have you or will you order Cactus Canyon remake?”

  • Yes, a Limited Edition 159 votes
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  • Yes, a Standard Edition 35 votes
    12%
  • I’m undecided 21 votes
    7%
  • Not moving to Cactus Canyon 69 votes
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#1 83 days ago

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It’s no longer hype - it’s here! Chicago Gaming announced and showcased Cactus Canyon Remake at Pinball Expo 21 in October.

The Limited Edition (LE) and the Special Edition (SE) were announced 10/29/21.
On 11/6/21 CGC announced the SE+ edition (SE with the topper). The topper will not be sold separately.
There is no Classic Edition as previously available with the MMr, AFMr, and MBr titles.

Details on all three models are on the official web page: https://www.chicago-gaming.com/coinop/cactus-canyon

Games were expected to start shipping in November 2021 beginning with the Special Edition models with Limited Editions in January 2022 followed by the SE+ models. There have been no production games been shipped as of January 2021 so it appears games have been delayed until early February (though CGC has not provided any updates).

CGC is continuing the matched LE numbers for owners of MMr, AFMr, and MBr but those games will no longer be produced at the beginning of the LE run.

Distributors may not request the final balance more than two weeks prior to the game’s shipment.

On 11/6/21 Planetary Pinball announced an optional mirrored backglass will be available to all Cactus Canyon Remake buyers through their distributors (limited to one per game). Price is $249.99 + shipping. Original orders were due from distributors in December and the first orders are expected to ship in February 2022.

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Lyman Sheats and Josh Sharpe were contracted to develop further software enhancements for Cactus Canyon Remake. This future code upgrade will be available at additional cost (TBD). (Chicago Gaming has rights to the Cactus Canyon Continued code done by epthegeek for the original game but it’s unknown if anything from it will be incorporated into a future code update).

Cactus Canyon Remake features exclusive expanded game rules, new display art and new sounds. All new full-color display artwork, re-imagined within the framework of the original Williams display artwork at four times the resolution. Thousands of frames have been painstakingly animated to create a display that features full color and four times the number of dots as the original Williams game.

Players can use game menus to choose between playing the original code (with new high resolution dots), the CGC enhanced software which completes the Cactus Canyon code as envisioned by the original Williams team, including the Bionic Bart mode [default] or the (future) optional Sheats/Sharpe upgrade. As described by Chicago Gaming “[t]he Sheats/Sharpe upgrade builds on the original rules and the new CGC rules. It will include more than just code. It's still under development and pricing hasn't been determined. We are always committed to delivering value and the upgrade will be priced accordingly.”

All three models include:
Large Color LCD Display
Silk screened playfield with the original Cactus Canyon art
Premium Enhanced Sound System
RGB General Illumination, Jet Bumper and Back Panel lighting
Multi-color speakers
All new original sculptures
RGB Lighting Effects
Custom Lower Arch
Enhanced (completed) and original Cactus Canyon code [user selectable]
Ability to run (future, optional) code package
New operating system and service modes

Special Edition - MSRP $7999.99 (no limit on production)
Stainless steel trim
Classic train rail

SE+ Edition - MSRP $9250
All features of the Special Edition
Wild West Shootout topper

Limited Edition: - MSRP $9249.99 (limited to 1250 units)
Also includes:
Gunslinger Lower Arch with branded wooden top
Limited Edition Metal Serial Medallion
Gum Metal Gray matte translucent black powder coat trim and shooter housing
Shaker motor
Custom Interior Art Blades
Wild West Shootout topper
Artist sculpted mine cart and tracks
Artist sculpted train tracks
Extended warranty coverage (double that of the SE/SE+)

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Chicago Gaming’s Ryan White talks about Cactus Canyon Remake at Pintastic. The video opens with CCr teaser video originally shown at the announcement.

#2 83 days ago
Quoted from jfh:

Who else is in and why?

Great game.

So I'll be ready for tech support if needed.

LTG : )

#3 83 days ago

I'm in for an SE - topper on LE looks cool, but I have limited ceiling height in my basement.

All topless in my basement so that's the way we swing.

#4 83 days ago
Quoted from LTG:

Great game.
So I'll be ready for tech support if needed.
LTG : )

This will be my first CGC game so that may come in handy.

I’m intrigued by the totally new OS and excited to learn more about the game. I always thought CC was under-rated and regretting not buying one on close out when I had a chance. It’ll be fun to see how they finished the game.

#5 83 days ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

I'm in for an SE - topper on LE looks cool, but I have limited ceiling height in my basement.
All topless in my basement so that's the way we swing.

I feel like for the price difference it would be worth it to buy the LE and just store the topper in case you ever move or trade it.

#6 83 days ago
Quoted from jfh:

It’s will be my first CGC game so that may come in handy.

They are pretty solid out of the box.

MBR had a few Frank mechs that needed a dab of oil on the metal moving parts. And MMR, AFMR, and MBR, had a couple displays that needed the cable reseated and stuck back in.

From my tech support experience.

LTG : )

#7 83 days ago
Quoted from Jj557:

I feel like for the price difference it would be worth it to buy the LE and just store the topper in case you ever move or trade it.

Think you can disable the topper mode in the settings? Alternatively, does the interactivity display on the screen too - rendering the topper a non-necessity?

I have no headspace for the topper either and prefer to just get the LE and hold on to the topper in the scenario that i move in the future. ...or heaven forbid sell the machine.

#8 83 days ago
Quoted from Jj557:

I feel like for the price difference it would be worth it to buy the LE and just store the topper in case you ever move or trade it.

Somebody else can have that LE spot. I'll be happy with an SE. Future $ not a primary factor to me. Enjoyment of the game is. I have enough stuff and don't need to worry about storing a topper that I couldn't use.

SE is cool with me.

#9 83 days ago
Quoted from Zukidog:

Think you can disable the topper mode in the settings?

Yes, I'm sure it will be in there. It is for the other games' toppers.

LTG : )

#10 83 days ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

Somebody else can have that LE spot. I'll be happy with an SE. Future $ not a primary factor to me. Enjoyment of the game is. I have enough stuff and don't need to worry about storing a topper that I couldn't use.
SE is cool with me.

I may have misheard, but I think they said there were some differences with the toys as well.

#11 83 days ago
Quoted from Zukidog:

Think you can disable the topper mode in the settings? Alternatively, does the interactivity display on the screen too - rendering the topper a non-necessity?
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I saw the topper can be disabled but don't know about it on the screen. It wasn't there when I played it. I went through most of the settings and didn't see a screen setting. Doesn't mean it's not there, I didn't see it.

#12 83 days ago
Quoted from Jj557:

I may have misheard, but I think they said there were some differences with the toys as well.

No big deal. Yes small differences. Makes very little difference to me. I have a classic AFMr and enjoy it a lot. Had a MBr classic enjoyed that too and sold to a close friend. Money saved can go toward beer.

Edit - Additional comments:
Guessing sculpted train track bottom could be added later for the SE or there will be a mod maker that will offer them. Could also add art blades and shaker. Also I'm sure a mod maker will offer a mine cart or other bling for top of the mine. There will be extras that can be added to the SE. Just don't have the room for a topper.. I'm sure I'll enjoy the SE and can add stuff if I want to.

#13 83 days ago

Anyone have an inkling of how long until these start shipping (SE & LE)? I’ve never been so excited to spend even close to this much money.

#14 83 days ago

LE from Flip n Out Pinball

#15 83 days ago
Quoted from kapaun:

Anyone have an inkling of how long until these start shipping (SE & LE)? I’ve never been so excited to spend even close to this much money.

Game Exchange said expect 3-6 months shipping for the LE on their web page (which is now gone so I assume their initial LE allotment is sold).

#16 83 days ago

I’m in on LE. Damned finery right there my good man…

#17 83 days ago

I’ve reached out to a few distributors and so far can’t get an LE. Anybody have a lead?

#18 83 days ago
Quoted from Matt1724:

I’ve reached out to a few distributors and so far can’t get an LE. Anybody have a lead?

From Planetary Pinball:

Never say never ... best to get on the list and if we see that everyone is on 10 different reseller list then things can open up ... contact [email protected]

#19 83 days ago

For anyone that has bought a CGC game before - what is the surcharge for requesting a specific number?

#20 83 days ago

Anyone have any feedback on the new code that played it today?

#21 83 days ago

It looks like PPS has emailed those on their LE list who have guaranteed spots:

CCR LE update:

The game has just been announced at Chicago Expo. If you got this message, you have the chance to buy the CCR LE from us.

We (PPS) need the weekend to get the proper information ready to send out (pricing, features, how to order, etc.), so please be patient and have peace of mind that you are on our “guaranteed to buy” list.

Our next email to you should be early next week (Tues/Wed), at that time you can read about the game details and make your deposit (you may already have some info if you attended Expo).

Deposits will be the usual $1,000 to hold your spot until your game is ready. If you got this message then you will have plenty of time to put your deposit in.

Please do not ask what spot in line you are at this time.

If you are not going to order from us (PPS) please reply back at any time and ask to be removed from this list.

Thank you again!

[email protected]

#22 83 days ago
Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:

Anyone have any feedback on the new code that played it today?

I played a couple days ago in a nice quite room. I found it full, meaning I never got through it. It's been a while since I played an original but I went through it pretty quick. Which is the reason I never bought one. Not so with the remake. Personally I loved the way it played and flowed, lots to do.
I'm on the list for an LE.

#23 83 days ago

I am waiting to hear from my dealer if I am in on an LE.

#24 83 days ago

I’m on Sara’s list for an LE. Owned an AFMrLE and loved it. It was the best built pin I’ve ever owned (after they sent me the skill shot fix-Thanks for the support LTG!). And the topper? Best there ever was! I’m very much looking forward to another fantastic playing/looking pin.

#25 83 days ago
Quoted from Zukidog:

.., does the interactivity display on the screen too - rendering the topper a non-necessity?

Obviously no topper is a necessity; and this one liek aboot as Orange County Choppers as you can get.

#26 83 days ago
Quoted from jfh:

It looks like PPS has emailed those on their LE list who have guaranteed spots:
CCR LE update:
The game has just been announced at Chicago Expo. If you got this message, you have the chance to buy the CCR LE from us.
We (PPS) need the weekend to get the proper information ready to send out (pricing, features, how to order, etc.), so please be patient and have peace of mind that you are on our “guaranteed to buy” list.
Our next email to you should be early next week (Tues/Wed), at that time you can read about the game details and make your deposit (you may already have some info if you attended Expo).
Deposits will be the usual $1,000 to hold your spot until your game is ready. If you got this message then you will have plenty of time to put your deposit in.
Please do not ask what spot in line you are at this time.
If you are not going to order from us (PPS) please reply back at any time and ask to be removed from this list.
Thank you again!
[email protected]

I have gotten the other emails from PPS but not this one, that worries me a bit. I had contact months ago from another distributor so we will see I guess.

#27 83 days ago
Quoted from Jj557:

I may have misheard, but I think they said there were some differences with the toys as well.

Who said this? I just watched the You Tube stream from Cary Hardy, and I don't see any difference at all in Toys. Start watching around minute 25.

There is just a missing mine cart from the top of the Mine. 100% cosmetic, but everything else appears to move fully. Are you aware of something else?

I'm thinking this might be an SE buy for me as well.

#28 83 days ago

Just put down a LE non refundable deposit. Looks amazing.

#29 83 days ago

I didn’t mention this in my initial post but the prospect of having an an additional version of the game by Lyman, even at extra cost, is what pushed my needle from “maybe an SE sometime” to “want an LE now”.

Lyman did incredible work on Batman and Elvira and I have no doubt he’ll do the same with Cactus Canyon.

#30 82 days ago

Are the SE's eligible for the Lyman code update or is it only the LEs?

#31 82 days ago

Anyone have other feature updates other than what is in the first post?

[I’ll update this list in the original post as more information is received]

#32 82 days ago
Quoted from Methos:

Are the SE's eligible for the Lyman code update or is it only the LEs?

If I heard correctly that will be an additional paid option for either version.

#33 82 days ago
Quoted from jfh:

Anyone have other feature updates?
Special Edition:
Extra Large Color LCD Display with Full Color High Resolution Graphics
Stainless steel trim
Limited Edition:
Extra Large Color LCD Display with Full Color High Resolution Graphics
Wood gun arch
Special LE trim
Shaker Motor included
Interactive topper with Shooting Gallery mini-game

Mine cart on top of mine and railroad tracks for train ramp.

#34 82 days ago
Quoted from Jj557:

I may have misheard, but I think they said there were some differences with the toys as well.

Butch walked me through the differences. Just the mining cart on top of the mine from a toy perspective from what he said and that's all I could find.

Edit: also, railroad ties on train track

#35 82 days ago
Quoted from LTG:

They are pretty solid out of the box.
MBR had a few Frank mechs that needed a dab of oil on the metal moving parts. And MMR, AFMR, and MBR, had a couple displays that needed the cable reseated and stuck back in.
From my tech support experience.
LTG : )

I had a non-working plasma disc behind the Bride on MBr, took a while for replacement but it did come through. Edwin is a class act.

#36 82 days ago
#37 82 days ago

So if the game already comes with expanded rules, what exactly is Lyman doing? Alternate replacement game rules?

#38 82 days ago

Says topper is LE only…during presentation he said they are undecided on that in terms of it being a possible upgrade for SE.

#39 82 days ago

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#40 82 days ago

Weird that the models have a different warranty.

(As per the features matrix)

rd

#41 82 days ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Weird that the models have a different warranty.
(As per the features matrix)
rd

Pretty sure CGC has done the same with the three previous titles

#42 82 days ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Weird that the models have a different warranty.
(As per the features matrix)
rd

My MMRRE is has a two year warranty too.

#43 82 days ago

Updated first post with additional feature information

#44 82 days ago

Guess the le trim will b different than the one revealed as it says it's just a basic black and not what was shown .....or maybe a possible option like afmr? Wonder if u can just get the stainless ? Hope some better details get released..

#45 82 days ago

No seeing any details on the expanded finished code. Did they talk about that in detail at all?

#46 82 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

No seeing any details on the expanded finished code. Did they talk about that in detail at all?

Same. Is there a link to Ryans “power” presentation from Expo? Understand it was inspiring…

#47 82 days ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

Is there a link to Ryans “power” presentation from Expo? Understand it was inspiring…

It’s the worst Expo presentation I’ve ever seen. The Dialed In reveal will now be remembered as awesome in comparison.

What's Happening at Chicago Gaming / Ryan White
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1190177331?t=07h01m00s

#48 82 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

No seeing any details on the expanded finished code. Did they talk about that in detail at all?

He mentioned that Bionic Bart had been implemented. That’s about it.

#49 82 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

No seeing any details on the expanded finished code. Did they talk about that in detail at all?

Appears they worked content in from the CCC mod:

Quoted from epthegeek:

They did work out a deal with me; but how much of what I did they choose to use isn’t up to me.

#50 82 days ago
Quoted from Vino:

Appears they worked content in from the CCC mod:

They have the ability to. No confirmation on whether they did.

CCC is incredible and I would love to see some of it in CCr, especially the tributes to other Williams games and drunk multiball.

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